Design Matters with Debbie Millman

Design Matters with Debbie Millman Podcast

Design Matters with Debbie Millman is one of the world’s very first podcasts. Broadcasting independently for over 15 years, the show is about how incredibly creative people design the arc of their lives.

Jacqueline Novogratz
On this episode, Jacqueline Novogratz talks about her long career fighting poverty around the world....

Claire Danes
On this episode Claire Danes talks to Debbie about her long career, and what she learned about spies from playing one....


Bisa Butler
On this episode, artist Bisa Butler talks to Debbie about her career, and about how making a quilted portrait of her grandmother led to an artistic breakthrough....

Michael R. Jackson
On this episode, Debbie talks to Michael R. Jackson about his latest musical, which is about a gay man trying to write a musical....

Fanny Singer
Debbie talks to Fanny Singer about her career writing about art and food, and about cooking in the time of Coronavirus....


Fanny Singer
Debbie talks to Fanny Singer about her career writing about art and food, and about cooking in the time of Coronavirus....

Maurice Cherry
On this episode, Debbie talks with Maurice Cherry about his education and career, and about why the profession of graphic design has been so slow to acknowledge Black designers....

Gabrielle Hamilton
On this episode Debbie talks to Gabrielle Hamilton about her career as a chef, and as a late-blooming writer....


Mauro Porcini
Debbie talks to Mauro Porcini, Chief Design Officer at Pepsico, about his childhood and his corporate work....

V
Debbie talks with V (formerly known as Eve Ensler) about her abusive father and how feminism has shaped her career....


Kathryn Gallagher
Debbie talks with Kathryn Gallager about her young career as an actor/singer/songwriter and about trauma on and off the stage....

Alex Bec and Will Hudson
Debbie talks to the design duo of Alex Bec and Will Hudson of It’s Nice That about their close friendship, long collaboration, and about what they’ve learned along the way....

Ina Mayhew
Debbie talks to Ina Mayhew about her career designing for movies and tv shows, and about how the virus may change the very nature of her profession....


Cheryl Strayed
Debbie talks to author Cheryl Strayed about her childhood, her career, and about the value of taking a very long hike....


Ira Glass
Walking is a form of creative trespassing, like tourism for the psyche....

Marilyn Minter
Debbie talks with artist Marilyn Minter about bringing her skills to the political arena, the ups and downs of her career, and the use of sexual imagery in her work....


Marilyn Minter
Debbie talks with artist Marilyn Minter about bringing her skills to the political arena, the ups and downs of her career, and the use of sexual imagery in her work....



Robert Wong
On this episode Debbie talks to Robert Wong, the executive creative director of Google Creative Lab....

Amber Tamblyn
A live conversation at WNYC’s Green Space with actor and poet Amber Tamblyn....


Lucy Wainwright Roche
A conversation with Lucy Wainwright Roche about her musical family, her career as a singer-songwriter, and her musical tastes....

Lucy Wainwright Roche
A conversation with Lucy Wainwright Roche about her musical family, her career as a singer-songwriter, and her musical tastes....

Chanel Miller
A conversation with Chanel Miller about rape culture....


Tosh Hall
A conversation with designer Tosh Hall about how to work with established brands....

Chani Nicholas
On this episode: a conversation with Chani Nicholas about her life in astrology....

Robert Fabricant + Cliff Kuang
On this episode Debbie talks to two designers about the history of user-friendly design and the importance of designing for feedback....


Tatiana Schlossberg
On this episode, Debbie talks to journalist Tatiana Schlossberg about what we can do, as individuals, about climate change....

Lawrence Azerrad
On this episode, a conversation with Lawrence Azerrad about the design of the Concorde....

Best of 2019
On this episode, some coming of age stories Debbie had during 2019....


Thomas Page McBee
On this episode Debbie talks to Thomas Page McBee about masculinity, from the point of view of a trans man....

Tiffany Shlain
On this episode Debbie talks to Tiffany Shlain about how cell phones have taken over our lives....

Michael Dorf
On this episode Debbie talks to music impresario and restaurateur Michael Dorf....


Saeed Jones
On this epsiode, a conversation with poet Saeed Jones about his memoir and about memory....

Malcolm Gladwell
On this episode a conversation with Malcolm Gladwell about why it is so easy to be fooled by dishonest people....

Malcolm Gladwell
On this episode a conversation with Malcolm Gladwell about why it is so easy to be fooled by dishonest people....


Chris Ware + Chip Kidd
On this episode Debbie talks to designer Chip Kidd and his good friend, graphic novelist Chris Ware....

Lynda Barry
On this episode cartoonist Lynda Barry talks about learning how to draw, and the damaging effects of one’s own opinion....

Warren Lehrer
Writer, artist, and designer Warren Lehrer talks to Debbie about the intersection of images and letters and about the future of books....


Elissa Altman
On this episode Elissa Altman talks to Debbie about life, food, love, and the new book she wrote on the difficult relationship she has with her mother....

Derren Brown
Debbie talks to Derren Brown about his risky stage performances as a mentalist and illusionist....

Lisa Taddeo
Debbie talks with writer Lisa Taddeo about sex and desire....



David Lee Roth
Debbie talks to David Lee Roth about his childhood, about his long career and his new skincare business, and about how he has avoided crashing, like so many other rock stars....


Austin Kleon
Debbie talks with Austin Kleon, who describes himself as ‘a writer who draws’....

Zoe Mendelson
Debbie talks to writer and activist Zoe Mendelson about the importance of sexual knowledge for women....

Lori Gottlieb
Debbie talks with author and therapist Lori Gottlieb about the importance of emotional awareness....


Stephen Gates
Debbie talks with designer Stephen Gates about why it’s important for a brand not to be liked by everybody....

Seth
Debbie talks with Seth, the artist behind the book Palookaville, about why his generation of cartoonists broke away from fantasy....

Tea Uglow
Debbie talks with Tea Uglow about experimental digital projects that are pushing the boundaries of tech and art....


Elizabeth Gilbert
Debbie talks with Elizabeth Gilbert, the author of Eat, Pray, Love about the love of her life and her latest book City of Girls....

Shantell Martin
Debbie talks with artist Shantell Martin about her unorthodox career, her collaborations, and about the business of making art....

Kris Holmes
Debbie talks to calligrapher and type designer Kris Holmes, the co-creator of the Lucida typeface family....


Roxane Gay
Debbie talks to writer Roxane Gay about loneliness, social media, and self-exposure....

Cey Adams
Debbie talks to Cey Adams about how his days writing graffiti led to a major career as a designer for hip hop acts and as an artist....



Jamie Myrold
Debbie talks with designer Jamie Myrold about great problems to solve....

Ingrid Fetell Lee
Debbie talks to designer and writer Ingrid Fetell Lee about joy....

Dustin Yellin
Debbie talks to Dustin Yellin about his busy life making art, while also running a non-profit cultural center....


Kate Moross
Debbie talks to designer, illustrator, and art director Kate Moross about her early success, her projects, and the importance of over-delivering....

Chase Jarvis
Debbie talks to Chase Jarvis about his career as a photographer and entrepreneur....

Bo Burnham + Elsie Fisher
Debbie talks to Bo Burnham about his film Eighth Grade, and the young star of that movie, Elsie Fisher....


Scott Belsky
Debbie talks to Scott Belsky about why creative conflict can lead to good decision making....

Jocelyn K. Glei
Jocelyn K. Glei talks to Debbie about how the internet can lead to burnout....

Josh Higgins
Josh Higgins talks to Debbie Millman about how to design software products that become popular with users....


Alice Rawsthorn
Debbie talks to Alice Rawsthorn about the growing status of design....

Sarah Kay
Debbie talks to performance poet Sarah Kay about teaching people to write....

Christoph Niemann
Debbie talks to illustrator Christoph Niemann about his singular career as an artistic superhero....


Shirley Manson
Debbie talks to singer-songwriter Shirley Manson about her career, her music, and the long road that got her where she is today....

Christina Tosi
Debbie talks with pastry chef and Milk Bar founder Christina Tosi about her career and long apprenticeship....

Albert Watson
Debbie talks with famed photographer Albert Watson about his career and about the importance of preparing conceptually for a shoot....


Thelma Golden
Debbie talks to museum director Thelma Golden about the power of curation....

Anne Lamott
Debbie talks with writer Anne Lamott about her life and her long career....

Pete Souza
Debbie Millman talks with Pete Sousza about his years as the Obama administration official photographer....


Paul Sahre
Debbie talks to designer Paul Sahre about the power of saying no to clients, and about a meeting with Steely Dan that went off the rails....

Patricia Cronin
Debbie talks to Patricia Cronin about art and politics....

Michael Ovitz
Debbie talks to Michael Ovitz about his long and controversial career as a Hollywood power broker....


Beth Comstock
Debbie talks to Beth Comstock about her career at General Electric and how big companies can innovate....



Neville Brody
On this episode, Debbie brings the great English designer, typographer, and art director Neville Brody to the stage....

Paula Scher
“...The thing about your fifties is you have power...all those people you grew up with, they’re in their fifties too and they’ve got power, so they can actually give you some decent work.”...


Matthew Carter
Debbie talks to the great type designer Matthew Carter live on stage....

Laurie Anderson
Debbie Millman brings artist Laurie Anderson live on stage to discuss her career, art, life, and politics....

Amy Sherald
Debbie talks to portrait painter Amy Sherald about her emotionally evocative work....


Lewis Lapham
On this episode Debbie talks to Lewis Lapham about his long career in journalism and the media landscape today....

Carmen Maria Machado
Debbie talks to writer Carmen Maria Machado about her writing, life, career, and the importance of ego....

Aminatou Sow
Debbie talks to Aminatou Sow about her podcast and her career in tech....


Erin McKeown
Debbie talks to muscian, playwright, and activist Erin McKeown about the ups and downs in her career, and about writing a musical for the first time....

Priya Parker
Debbie talks to author and conflict resolution mediator Priya Parker about meetings and gatherings and why so many of them don’t work....

Jack Ferver
Debbie talks to performance artist and dancer Jack Ferver about his career in dance theater and the politics in his work....


Pamela Paul
Debbie Millman talks with author and editor Pamela Paul about books and book reviewing....

Anand Giridharadas
Debbie Millman talks to journalist Anand Giridharadas about his career, about a divided America, and about tech monopolies....

David Spergel
Debbie talks to astrophysicist David Spergel about the origins of the universe....


Edel Rodriguez
Debbie talks to Edel Rodriguez about his career and his celebrated illustrations of Donald Trump....

Simon Doonan
On this episode, Debbie talks to Simon Doonan about his unlikely career and his formula for creative window displays....

Richard Haines
Debbie talks to Richard Haines about his late blooming career as an illustrator....


Nick Law
On this episode Debbie talks to Nick Law about working through failure....

David Korins
On this episode, Debbie talks with set designer David Korins about his impressive career on Broadway, his design process, and his latest projects....

Sukey Novogratz
On this episode, Debbie talks to Sukey Novogratz about meditation and recovery from trauma....


Edwin Schlossberg
On this episode, Debbie talks to interactive designer Edwin Schlossberg about his career and about the time he asked a Vatican archivist why they had cataloged so little of their historical treasures....

Steven Pinker
On this episode, Debbie talks to experimental psychologist and author Steven Pinker about measuring human happiness....

Kaki King
On this episode, Debbie talks to musician Kaki King about performing and composing....


David Cay Johnston
On this episode, Debbie talks to David Cay Johnston about the fun of investigative journalism.....

Design Matters 2017 Highlights
Debbie looks back at some of her favorite highlights of 2017 including Thomas Kail, Elizabeth Alexander, Mike Mills, Sarah Jones, Anil Dash, and Brian Koppelman....

Barry Blitt
Debbie talks to New Yorker celebrated cover artist Barry Blitt about where his ideas come from....


Richard Saul Wurman
Debbie talks to TED founder Richard Saul Wurman about learning and education....

Marina Abramović
Debbie talks to performance artist Marina Abramović about her career, her art, and her incredible body of work....

Catie Lazarus
Debbie talks to podcast host, comic, and comedy writer Catie Lazarus about comedy, and about the grey area of comedians telling off-color jokes....


Tim Ferriss
Debbie talks to four time New York Times best selling author Tim Ferriss about depression, suicide, and major changes in his life....

Mike Mills
Debbie talks to artist and filmmaker Mike Mills about his career and his formative influences....

Deborah Kass
Debbie talks to artist Deborah Kass about her long and extraordinary career....


Kenny Fries
Debbie Millman talks to writer Kenny Fries about living with, and writing about disability....

Emma Donoghue
Debbie talks to novelist Emma Donoghue about gender, race, and the value of fiction....

Esther Perel
Debbie talks to therapist and author Esther Perel about marriage, polyamory, and adultry....


Brené Brown
Debbie talks to author and researcher Brené Brown about belonging, courage, and vulnerability....

Thomas Kail
Debbie talks to director Thomas Kail about his career and about the joys of collaboration....


Design Matters from the Archive: Cindy Gallop
Debbie talks to Cindy Gallop about her career in advertising and about the trouble people have communicating about sex. “People therefore find it bizarrely difficult to talk about sex with the people they’re having it with while they are actually having it.”...





Design Matters from the Archive: Bonnie Siegler
Debbie talks to designer Bonnie Siegler about her career and about the conflict between designers and their clients. "The clients aren’t the problem, the clients aren’t jerks, they’re not assholes, it’s not that they have bad taste, or anything like that. Sometimes they just have no idea how to interact with professional creative people."...

Design Matters from the Archive: Nico Muhly
Debbie talks to composer Nico Muhly about his music and about the musicians who interpret it. "I always feel like they appreciate something that’s detailed on the page to indicate that I know what I’m talking about, but with room for them to continue the conversation when I’m dead."...


Brian Collins
Debbie talks to Brian Collins about why designers shouldn’t think of themselves as mere problem solvers....

DJ Stout
DJ Stout is a sixth generation Texan, award-winning designer, and partner at Pentagram....


Sarah Jones
On this podcast Debbie talks to playwright Sarah Jones about her relationship with her characters....

Elizabeth Alexander
Debbie talks to poet Elizabeth Alexander about the journey of her extraordinary life and how death makes us think about what we truly value....

Jonathan Adler
On this episode Debbie talks to Jonathan Adler about how his pottery defined his aesthetic....


Connie Birdsall
Debbie talks to Connie Birdsall about designing some of the most successful brands of our time and what to do when a meeting with clients is not going well....

Rochelle Udell
On this podcast Debbie talks to Rochelle Udell about her very creative professional life....

Mike Rigby
On this podcast Debbie talks to Mike Rigby about his international career in design and branding and how to stay creatively engaged....


Sam Winston
On this episode Debbie talks to artist + writer Sam Winston about his life-long fascination with type....

Nicholas Blechman
On this podcast Debbie talks to Nicholas Blechman about the importance of political satire....


Seth Godin
Debbie talks to Seth Godin about how to live in our difficult political moment....

Anil Dash
Debbie Millman talks to Anil Dash about politics, technology and culture....

Brian Koppelman
Debbie talks to Brian Koppelman about why he became a writer after years as a record promoter and producer....


Design Matters: Best Of 2016
Debbie highlights some of her favorite conversations of 2016, including Alison Bechdel, Alain de Botton, Lisa Congdon, Chris Anderson, Krista Tippet, Eileen Myles, and Amanda Palmer....

Adam J. Kurtz
Debbie talks to Adam J. Kurtz about designing for psychological health. “I’m not going to change your life, I’m just going to share with you the tools that are helping me.”...

Gail Bichler
Debbie talks to New York Times Magazine design director Gail Bichler about magazine design and the role of the magazine cover in the digital age....


Cindy Gallop
Debbie talks to Cindy Gallop about her career in advertising and about the trouble people have communicating about sex....

Tim Ferriss Part 1
Debbie talks to writer Tim Ferriss about the strategies he has used to change his life....

Eileen Myles
Debbie talks to poet Eileen Myles about poetry, fame, and politics....


Keira Alexandra
Debbie talks to designer Keira Alexandra about what to do when you need extras for a video shoot....

Pierluigi Serraino
Debbie talks to architect Pierluigi Serraino about some of the things creative people have in common....

Steven Watson
Debbie talks to Stack Magazines founder Steven Watson about the passion behind the independent magazines that he loves....


Bonnie Siegler
Debbie talks to designer Bonnie Siegler about her career and about the conflict between designers and their clients....

Lana Z Porter
Debbie talks to designer, writer, and researcher Lana Z. Porter about branding for millennials + more....

Giorgia Lupi
Debbie talks to information designer Giorgia Lupi about data visualization and the data of our personal lives....


Joe Hollier
Debbie talks to Joe Hollier about an invention of his that is designed to bring back boredom in the era of the smartphone....


Design Matters from the Archive: Roz Chast
Debbie talks to Roz Chast about how she earned a coveted spot as a cartoonist for The New Yorker magazine, and how her art is informed by the brutal reality of life....



Gretchen Rubin
Debbie talks to author Gretchen Rubin about happiness and the power of habit....

Chris Anderson
Debbie talks to Chris Anderson about how the TED conference has helped changed the way we learn....


Design Matters from the Archive: Ben Schott
Debbie talks to Ben Schott about the importance of failing early in one’s career, about how to take a politician’s picture, and about writing and designing his own books....


Lisa Congdon
On this episode Debbie talks with artist and writer Lisa Congdon about how she sometimes felt like an imposter....

Alison Bechdel
Debbie talks to Alicon Bechdel about how identifying herself as a lesbian when she was young lead her into a career as a cartoonist....

Nico Muhly
Debbie talks to composer Nico Muhly about his music and about the musicians who interpret it....


Todd Waterbury
Debbie Millman talks to Target’s Chief Creative Officer Todd Waterbury about how technology is changing consumption and about how smart phones have raised our expectations for how companies should interact with us....

Caroline Paul
Debbie talks to writer Caroline Paul about her death-defying adventures, and how girls must learn the difference between fear and exhilaration....

Amanda Palmer
Debbie talks to Amanda about her wild and wandering path to the rock stage, and about how behind her artistic ambitions is the drive to feel real....


Krista Tippett
Debbie talks with radio host Krista Tippett about her religious orientation, her struggle with depression, and about why it’s so hard to understand our historical moment....

Greg Hahn + Ryan Moore
Debbie talks to branding designers Greg Hahn and Ryan Moore about their process when working with clients such as Netflix and MoMA....

Kate Bolick
Debbie Millman talks with writer Kate Bolick about society’s historically skeptical view of a single woman....


Mimi Váldes
Debbie talks to Mimi Valdés about her unstoppable career, from magazine editor to her creative partnership with the pop singer Pharrell Williams....

Ayse Birsel
Debbie talks to Ayse Birsel about her expansive career as an industrial designer and how she uses art and design to reconstruct her personal and professional life around a core idea....

Eric Zimmer
Debbie talks to Eric Zimmer about the twists and turns in his surprising career as a tech entrepreneur, and abot some of the things he’s learned along the way....


Tucker Nichols
Debbie talks to artist Tucker Nichols about his art, and the quality of the art he loves....

Doug Powell
On this episode Debbie talks to Doung Powell about how designers can use their skills beyond the confines of the profession....

Scott Clemons
Debbie talks to Scott Clemons about one of the great printers and designers of all time....


Simon Sinek
Debbie Millman talks to author Simon Sinek about the fruits of good leadership....

Michael Bierut
Debbie talks to Design Observer co-founder Michael Bierut about why he thinks graphic design is so cool....


Jonathan Fields
Author and entrepreneur Jonathan Fields on his previous careers as a lawyer and personal trainer, and on The Good Life. "The Good Life is not a place at which you arrive, it’s a lens through which you see and create."...

Design Matters From the Archive: Bob Gill
Debbie talks to legendary designer Bob Gill about coming up in the profession in the 1950s, about working with the Beatles, and the problem with many designers today....


Design Matters From the Archive: Chip Kidd
Debbie talks to book designer Chip Kidd about why his TED talk turned into the most terrifying 19 minutes of his life, and about his book of graphic design for children....


Design Matters From The Archive: Marion Deuchars
Debbie talks to illustrator and author Marion Deuchars about the expressiveness of hand-lettering, about how drawing is an intense form of looking, and the limited value of technology in teaching art to children....

Design Matters From the Archive: Louise Fili
Debbie talks to Louise Fili about designing book covers, designing for restaurants, about why she prefers working for small businesses, and about the importance of sketching....



Kelli Anderson
Debbie talks to Kelli Anderson about what design can tell us about the world....


Oliver Jeffers
Debbie talks to artist and illustrator Oliver Jeffers, who explains how illustrating and writing children’s books has changed his fine art painting....

Carolina Rogoll
Branding expert Carolina Rogoll talks about how to update a brand and why sabbaticals are a good idea....


Audrey Arbeeny
Recorded live at "What Design Sounds Like," Debbie talks to Audrey Arbeeny about audio branding....

Virginia Postrel
Debbie Millman talks to Virginia Postrel about the power of glamorous objects and glamorous people....

Elle Luna
Debbie Millman talks to Elle Luna about why she walked away from great design jobs with IDEO, Uber, and Mailbox....


Ron Burrage
Debbie Millman talks to Ron Burrage about his design career, his performance career, and about how to design fearlessly....

Julia Turshen
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Julia Turshen about cooking and writing (and how to successfully peel a hard boiled egg)....

Lynda Weinman
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie talks to lynda.com’s Lynda Weinman about how the internet is challenging the traditional classroom model....


Morley
On this episode of Design Matters Debbie Millman talks to Morley about her songs of social change....

Ben Watson
On this episode Debbie Millman talks to Herman Miller’s Ben Watson about how design affects people who never even think about design....

Louise Sandhaus
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman speaks with Louise Sandhaus about her macrobiotic past, her new book, and her struggles to get it published....


Isaac Mizrahi
To launch the 10th season of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Isaac Mizrahi about why he loves fashion and why he does so many things outside of fashion....

Chee Pearlman
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to editor, curator, and design fairy godmother Chee Pearlman about editing a design magazine and designing conferences....


Liz Danzico
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Liz Danzico about writing and designing, life in NYC, and why it’s so important to keep learning (and re-learning)....

Justin Ahrens
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Justin Ahrens about designing for social change and his book....

Ji Lee
On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, Debbie talks with designer Ji Lee about why he hates most advertising, but why he loves the idea of advertising on Facebook (where he works)....


Emily Spivack
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to writer and curator Emily Spivack about how our clothes are more than fabric and thread....

Moira Cullen
On this episode of Design Matters Debbie Millman talks to Moira Cullen—design strategist, writer and educator—about her innovative design work for some of the world’s leading brands....

Tina + Ryan Essmaker
On this episode of Design Matters Debbie Millman talks to Tina and Ryan Essmaker, designers, photographers, creative directors and cofounders of The Great Discontent...


Caroline Baumann
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Cooper Hewitt director Caroline Baumann about her career in museums and why the interest in design has surged in recent years....

Fritz Karch
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Fritz Karch on being a stylist for Martha Stewart, owning an antique shop, and what it means to be a collector....

Ben Schott
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Ben Schott about the importance of failing early in one’s career, about how to take a politician’s picture, and about writing and designing his own books....


Petter Ringbom
On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Petter Ringbom about his years at the creative agency Flat, and how he moved away from graphic design into filmmaking....

Tom Geismar
In this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to legendary designer Tom Geismar about how the practice of design has changed since the 1950s....

Noah Brier
Noah Brier on brands, design and content in the age of social media....


Dani Shapiro
On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, Debbie talks to writer Dani Shapiro about being raised an Orthodox Jew, about being vulnerable in her work, and about writing her way out of an existential crisis....

Brian Singer
On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, Debbie talks to Brian Singer, Communication Design team leader at Facebook,....

Rachel Sussman
Artist Rachel Sussman discusses her new book and explains what it was like to be abandoned without supplies — or a phone — in Greenland....