Benoit Legrand is CIO of ING. Simon talks to Benoit about his unsuccessful startup experiences and what they taught him, how ING sees itself as a 20 year old fintech, why some banks are afraid of PSD2 and how to focus on the problems customers are facing. They also take a look at Yolt, developing resistence to change and the importance of having a team dedicated to delivering change, why the scale of partnerships matter and touch on Brexit. We hope you enjoyed the show! Don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode, and follow Fintech Insider on Twitter or Facebook. If you really loved it, please leave us a review, we love reading them! This episode was produced by Laura Watkins and edited by Alex Woodhouse Special Guest: Benoit Legrand.