Safe For Work

Safe For Work Podcast

Life at work can be funny, challenging, ridiculous, and -- yes, even satisfying. Here at Safe For Work, we're all about helping you find balance and happiness in your career. After all, many of us spend more time with our co-workers and clients than with our friends and family. Hosts Liz Dolan and Rico Gagliano give advice on everything from how to avoid burnout on the job to how to fake an illness when you're calling in sick. We also talk to experts about those moments at the office that can challenge the best of us: negotiating raises, knowing when it’s time to move on...or dealing with that annoying office mate with no boundaries. From Wondery, the network behind Business Wars, Safe For Work is helpful career advice that's lively and fun, just like your work life should be. In every episode, Liz and Rico talks with callers, business leaders and noted know-it-alls who share their hard-earned wisdom from the trenches. Liz Dolan is the former head of marketing at Nike, The Oprah Winfrey Network and National Geographic and host of the podcast Satellite Sisters. Rico Gagliano is a contributor to The Wall Street Journal, former host of podcast Dinner Party Download, reporter on the public radio show Marketplace, and co-author of BRUNCH IS HELL.

Introducing Say Yes! with Carla Hall
You might know Carla Hall from her time on Top Chef and as a TV personality on GMA and Netflix’s Crazy Delicious. But, the biggest moments in Carla’s life have come when she decided to face adversity head on. Her motto is ”say yes” to everything life throws your way. In her new Wondery podcast, ‘Say Yes with Carla Hall,’ Carla sits down with some of the most inspiring celebrity personalities and they explore their challenges and how they got to their yes. In the very first episode, Carla welcomes Kristen Be...

Wondery Presents: Bunga Bunga
Silvio Berlusconi was a charismatic multi-millionaire real-estate mogul who upended the Italian political order and hypnotized an entire nation. He was the longest-serving prime minister of one of the world’s wealthiest countries, until he was brought down by three powerful women - and two words: “Bunga Bunga.” From Wondery, the makers of Dirty John and The Shrink Next Door, and hosted by comedian Whitney Cummings, “Bunga Bunga” is an eight part series on the incredible true story of the rise and fall of Si...

Wondery Presents: Billionaire Boys Club
In 1980s Los Angeles, a group of prep school boys got together to make investments together, get rich quick, and live large. But headed by a handsome and charismatic leader named Joe Hunt, the members of the self-proclaimed “Billionaire Boys Club” get sucked deeper into twisted schemes of kidnapping, torture, and revenge. The boys must stick together, or risk prison - or worse. From the makers of The Wonderland Murders, Young Charlie, and The Dating Game Killer, this six-part series is co-hosted by Tracy Pa...


Wondery Presents: Billionaire Boys Club
In 1980s Los Angeles, a group of prep school boys got together to make investments together, get rich quick, and live large. But headed by a handsome and charismatic leader named Joe Hunt, the members of the self-proclaimed “Billionaire Boys Club” get sucked deeper into twisted schemes of kidnapping, torture, and revenge. The boys must stick together, or risk prison - or worse. From the makers of The Wonderland Murders, Young Charlie, and The Dating Game Killer, this six-part series is co-hosted by Tracy Pa...

Wondery Presents Blood Ties Season 2
Blood Ties Season 2 will be available tomorrow!Blood Ties is a scripted audio drama starring Gillian Jacobs, Josh Gad, Dominic Monaghan, Amy Landecker, and Wayne Knight.  After the sudden death of Michael and Eleonore Richland’s billionaire father, disturbing allegations emerge about his dark past. These revelations thrust them into a fight they’re completely unprepared for. As the stakes of telling the truth continue to rise, they grapple with their father’s legacy and what to do with it. Listen today at w...

Wondry Presents Guru: The Dark Side of Enlightenment
When we face challenges in life, we seek answers from people we believe can help us. When tragedy strikes an exclusive retreat with a self-help superstar, many people are left to wonder: how far is too far? James Arthur Ray was an Oprah-endorsed self-help teacher who achieved fame, fortune, and influence. But friends and family members of his followers questioned his unorthodox methods, and tried to stop him. From Wondery, the makers of “Dirty John,” “Dr. Death,” and “The Shrink Next Door,” comes a story ab...


Liz Dolan Provides Workplace Advice on Satellite Sisters
Satellite Sisters' Liz Dolan answers listener work and workplace questions. Ageism. Safety. Leadership. We tackle your issues every week in ‘Working It Out".Resources mentioned during Liz's Satellite Sisters Working It Out segment:Time Magazine article: Scared To Return To Work Amid Coronavirus? Your OptionsForbes Magazine: Planning For Early RetirementThe Unemployment Rate Among Older Adults: What to do if you lose your jobFor concerns about discrimination or workplace safety. also seek out your state cont...

Encore: Finding Out of Office Inspiration
A few weeks back on the show, we were talking with our own Coach Larry about what to do if you base your entire identity on your job. Which unsurprisingly, is NOT the healthiest way to live.One piece of Larry’s advice was to make sure there’s “something else” in your life other than work, including creative pursuits. But how do you work an extra passion project into your busy schedule? And what if you don’t even think of yourself as especially creative?Today’s guest Laura M. Holson has some ideas. She’s a l...

Encore: How to Work Smarter Without Working Harder
We get a lot of questions from folks about how to quit a difficult or stressful job. But perhaps our favorite task here is to help you become better and more efficient at your current gig--so maybe you won’t have to quit, or resort to anxiety meds.And to that end, Liz and Rico are talking to one of their favorite guests: Morten T. Hansen. Hansen is a management professor at the University of California, Berkeley, and author of the book, “Great at Work.” He’s here to explain a research-based list of “work sm...


Encore: Staying Connected to Your Team Outside of the Office
We’ve talked a lot on the show about ways to stay sane as a remote worker, but managing a remote team is a whole different animal. So we’ve called on David Deacon, author of “The Self Determined Manager: A Manifesto for Exceptional People Managers,” to shed light on how bosses can help their employees feel like part of the team, even from halfway around the world. Then, Liz and Rico will chat with listener Jenn, who just stepped into a new role at her company, but can’t escape her terrible boss. And we hear...

Encore: Staying Connected to Your Team Outside of the Office
We’ve talked a lot on the show about ways to stay sane as a remote worker, but managing a remote team is a whole different animal. So we’ve called on David Deacon, author of “The Self Determined Manager: A Manifesto for Exceptional People Managers,” to shed light on how bosses can help their employees feel like part of the team, even from halfway around the world. Then, Liz and Rico will chat with listener Jenn, who just stepped into a new role at her company, but can’t escape her terrible boss. And we hear...

Introducing Fighting Coronavirus
The coronavirus outbreak and the global response to it is unprecedented. How did we get here? What comes next?Author Steven Johnson is an authority on the epidemics of the past, and how lessons that humanity learned decades ago might help us fight a pandemic in our present. Every week on Fighting Coronavirus, Steven will talk to experts in health and technology about ways innovations and interventions can help bring the current crisis to an end. Each episode will keep you up to date on the cutting edge scie...


Encore: Keeping Sane in Your Home Office
Kat Boogaard, staff writer at The Muse, joins us to talk about the surprisingly challenging aspects of working from home, plus she gives us her tips on how to tell if you’re the kind of person who could responsibly handle working remotely (if you have a predilection for watching Vine compilations on Youtube, working in an office might be better for you). Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Samantha, whose new job is being ruined by major changes at her company, and Amanda, who’s struggling to connect with her...

Safe For Work Signs-Off
It’s that time, dear listeners. We’ve reached the end of Safe for Work. And for the record, we have loved every minute of making this podcast!In the interest of social distancing, Liz and Rico are coming to you for this last show from their remote corners of Los Angeles. But that doesn’t mean they won’t have their usual SFW flair.Speaking of flair, Rico finally got Liz to watch his (and America’s) favorite workplace movie....Yes, we’re talking about Office Space.We’ll hear Liz’s review and Rico’s impression...

Team Building in Uncertain Times
Since you last heard from us (a mere week ago), office culture has, changed, shall we say. The SFW team is all doing well, under the circumstances. And if you’re in your respective corners like us, and would like some advice on how to make working from home… well, work… from home... may we suggest listening to our episodes, “The Secret to Managing Your Remote Team” and “How to Stay Sane When You’re Working From Home.” Today we’re gonna talk a little bit about how COVID-19 is affecting the state of work. But...


Team Building in Uncertain Times
Since you last heard from us (a mere week ago), office culture has, changed, shall we say. The SFW team is all doing well, under the circumstances. And if you’re in your respective corners like us, and would like some advice on how to make working from home… well, work… from home... may we suggest listening to our episodes, “The Secret to Managing Your Remote Team” and “How to Stay Sane When You’re Working From Home.” Today we’re gonna talk a little bit about how COVID-19 is affecting the state of work. But...

Introducing Even the Rich
Sometimes we all think our lives are crazy. But on Wondery's new series, co-hosts Brooke Siffrinn and Aricia Skidmore-Williams pull back the curtain and dish on someone else's craziness for a change. Brooke and Aricia will tell the stories of some of the greatest family dynasties in history, from the Murdochs to the Carters (Jay-Z and Beyoncé, that is). Because as none other than Queen Elizabeth once said, "A good gossip is a wonderful tonic."Listen today: wondery.fm/safeforworkETR...

The Pros and Cons of Being A Contractor
The SFW staff is pretty familiar with freelance life. Rico’s worked in media for most of his career. And for much of that, he’s been a freelance contractor. Liz has spent a lot of time in the 9 to 5 of the corporate world, but she is now an independent consultant and media worker. And they’re not alone. According to a 2018 poll from NPR and Marist, one in five Americans is freelancing.Seeing as everyone on this show is going to be moving on to new, probably freelance gigs in the very near future, we thought...


Lessons Learned from Surviving WeWork
When reading about some startup that’s suddenly doing gangbuster business, do you ever wonder, “What it would really be like to work in that office?” Then when they crash and burn, you imagine what it must have been like to be on that insane roller-coaster!That brings us to WeWork, which not long ago was buying up skyscrapers in cities all over the world to offer to customers as temporary workspaces. WeWork rocketed up to a value of $47 billion… and then totally crashed. Failed founder Adam Neumann walked a...

Lessons Learned from Surviving WeWork
When reading about some startup that’s suddenly doing gangbuster business, do you ever wonder, “What it would really be like to work in that office?” Then when they crash and burn, you imagine what it must have been like to be on that insane roller-coaster!That brings us to WeWork, which not long ago was buying up skyscrapers in cities all over the world to offer to customers as temporary workspaces. WeWork rocketed up to a value of $47 billion… and then totally crashed. Failed founder Adam Neumann walked a...

Tips For A Lasting Creative Career
Some people get all the breaks. How many of us have friends who can just fly by the seat of their pants, take risks and still come out at the top of their career game? If you’ve ever wondered how they do it, we’ve got an inside scoop today from indie-rock legend David Gedge! Gedge is one of Rico’s personal musical heroes, but more germaine to our purposes here, he’s is an inspiring example of pulling off a long-term career, on your own terms. And yes, it’s still a lot of hard work.We also have some news, de...


How To Deal With Soul-Sucking Workplace Archetypes
It’s vampire time! Yes, it’s a weird way to introduce this episode. But we’re not talking about the Bram Stoker version of vampires. This episode is all about the kind of people (fully alive, not undead) who suck the joy and energy out of your work day, i.e. the “paranoids,” “histrionics” and “narcissists” that inevitably infiltrate most offices.In that vein, we’re taking a page, literally, from the book, “Emotional Vampires: Dealing with People Who Drain You Dry” by Albert Bernstein. And joining us for a c...

Wondery Presents: The School of Greatness
The School of Greatness with Lewis Howes is the best place to learn how to dream bigger, live better, and make an impact. The show features conversations with world-class game changers, and dives into topics from entrepreneurship and inspiration, to health and relationships.Subscribe today at: wondery.fm/safeforworkSOG...

Wondery Presents: The School of Greatness
The School of Greatness with Lewis Howes is the best place to learn how to dream bigger, live better, and make an impact. The show features conversations with world-class game changers, and dives into topics from entrepreneurship and inspiration, to health and relationships.Subscribe today at: wondery.fm/safeforworkSOG...


We’re Taking Your Calls, Dear Listeners!
Today we’re doing our favorite thing--taking your calls for (almost) the whole episode! We had so many great emails, that we wanted some extra time to chat work dilemmas with y’all. And while Liz and Rico love giving advice, it’s great when we can learn a few things from our callers.  Case in point, up first is listener Luc, who is having trouble choosing between two great job offers. Luc is also transgender and was kind enough to pass along the following workplace resources for the trans community: Learn h...

We’re Taking Your Calls, Dear Listeners!
Today we’re doing our favorite thing--taking your calls for (almost) the whole episode! We had so many great emails, that we wanted some extra time to chat work dilemmas with y’all. And while Liz and Rico love giving advice, it’s great when we can learn a few things from our callers.  Case in point, up first is listener Luc, who is having trouble choosing between two great job offers. Luc is also transgender and was kind enough to pass along the following workplace resources for the trans community: Learn h...

Introducing Dying for Sex
Listen to Dying for Sex at wondery.fm/DFS9.When she’s diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer, Molly decides to do something bold: she leaves her unhappy marriage and embarks on a series of sexual adventures to help her feel alive. These experiences are beyond anything she could have imagined, so she shares the details with her closest friend, host Nikki Boyer. The two best friends dissect these hilarious, often touching stories. And they growing even closer as they share Molly's journey together. From Wonder...


Facial Hair At Work: Yay or Nay?
We’re starting today’s show with a question that hasn’t popped up in our inbox before: Should you be clean-shaven in your professional profile pictures? Listener Scott posed this to us in an email, and he’s calling in for a discussion on facial hair and whether that affects your chances of getting hired. And no, it really shouldn’t matter. Then, we address the subject of allyship both in and out of the office. What’s a success partner? How are they different?For more on that, we’re reaching out to Minda Har...

What To Do When Your Boss Becomes Your Subordinate
Getting offered a promotion is supposed to be a good thing. It means your hard work is paying off and your employers are taking notice. But what if, along with all the responsibilities and pressure that comes with moving up to management, the person who’s position you’re filling is now your subordinate. In short, you’re doing a switcheroo with your boss. That’s exactly what our listener Ashley is preparing for. Today, we’re opening the show with her call, so Liz and Rico can give some tips on how to take ch...

Introducing WeCrashed
The Rise and Fall of WeWork is a stunning story of hope and hubris. WeWork was the poster child for a new economy. Its founders wanted to revolutionize everything about the way people lived their lives. Its charismatic founder Adam Neumann had an intoxicating vision for the company — but did it ever match the reality?Subscribe today: wondery.fm/wecrashedSFW...


How To Ask For Advice Without the Old 'Picking Someone's Brain'
Liz and Rico are advice givers by trade, but that doesn’t mean they’re equipped to give advice about how best to *ask for* advice.  So, since getting the advice you need is a pretty important step in anyone’s work life, we called writer Anna Goldfarb, an expert on that subject. She wrote the article entitled, “The right way to ask ‘Can I Pick Your Brain?’” and is giving five ground rules for advice seekers in five-ish minutes. It’s a classic SFW segment we like to call “5-in-5.”Then, we’re getting into Ling...

How to Leverage An Outside Offer... with Grace
It seems like it oughta be the dream position for an employee: You’re doing a gig you kinda like, but maybe they don’t pay you enough, or give you enough of a benefits package… And then, you get another job offer.  At last, you’re in the catbird seat! If your current gig wants to keep you, they’re gonna have to sweeten the pot. Then the new gig will offer even more to steal you!But then you’re gonna need to somehow play these two employers off each other without either of them resenting you for it. Here to ...

Introducing What Should I Read Next?
This is the show for every reader who has ever finished a book and faced the problem of not knowing what to read next.Each week Anne Bogel of the blog Modern Mrs Darcy, shares conversations about tackle books they love, the books they hate, and the books they're reading now. The real purpose of the show is to help YOU find your next read.Subscribe now: http://wondery.fm/WhatShoudlReadNext...


Creating Positive Work Culture
We hear from a lot of listeners about the disconnect between their corporate culture and what the company SAYS their culture is.  For example, we recently had a caller named Carly who said her managers ruled by shame and fear but their corporate values called for them to be “Courgeously Forthright,” which would be hilarious if it weren’t so hard on people.  So when we got an email from a company named Tuthill about how they were shaping their culture, it got our attention. Chad Gabriel is Tuthill’s “Sherpa ...

Kick Off 2020 with Our Favorite First Day of Work Stories
In the name of the new year and new beginnings — on this first episode of 2020 we’re gonna be listening to stories… by turns wonderful, horrifying and hilarious… about people’s first days at work. And when the SFW team was talking about this around the office, Liz Dolan herself said she has a doozy worth kicking off the show with, at a little company called Nike.Then we continue our theme of “first day of work” stories with one of our favorite guests Quinn Cummings. As a kid, she was nominated for an Oscar ...

Meet The SFW Crew Who Makes The Show You Love
So 12 months back, we ended 2018 with a couple of episodes in which Liz and Rico interviewed each other. This year, some other “Safe For Work” staffers are getting a shot at the spotlight, and stepping into the booth to talk about their surprising career paths.Up first is our producer, Audrey Ngo. She’s here to chat about going back to school after 30, and transitioning from a job as a makeup artist to the world of audio journalism. Then Liz and Rico chat with our sound engineer, Mischa Stanton. Mischa’s di...


We’re Celebrating 2019 Work Wins!
A few weeks ago we asked you, dear listeners, to write us with your favorite upbeat work-centric stories, including your own career triumphs of 2019.Well (as expected), you didn’t disappoint. We’ll be hearing your stories throughout the show. Starting with a listener who’s also been an expert guest here on SFW, Kristen Meinzer. Kristen is an author and host of many podcasts including By The Book. She was also our first guest of the year back in January, when among other things we talked about about how she’...

How To Do A Digital Detox At Work
We’ve all heard about digital detoxes, and why they’re worth undertaking. But that’s usually put in the context of its impact on our lives outside of work. So what do we gain from shutting off our screens at work? For a lot of us, our work happens almost entirely on screens! For some practical tips on “going analog.” today we’re talking with Digital Detox and Human Connection Expert Holland Haiis. Holland is going to do a (kinda) quickfire round of our 5-in-5 segment. This is when we pose a problem to a gue...

How To Recover From Your Catastrophic Comment
We’ve all been there. Sometimes our emotions or the heat of the moment sweep away all wisdom or self-restraint, and we say something in a work setting that makes us wish we could rewind history.Alas, time doesn’t work that way. So for some tips on how to smooth over the potentially career-killing rough patch you’ve just made for yourself, we’re welcoming back Joseph Grenny.  He is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, and a leading social scientist for business performance. Grenny’s here to show us...


Finding Creativity Outside of Work
A few weeks back on the show, we were talking with our own Coach Larry about what to do if you base your entire identity on your job. Which unsurprisingly, is NOT the healthiest way to live.One piece of Larry’s advice was to make sure there’s “something else” in your life other than work, including creative pursuits. But how do you work an extra passion project into your busy schedule? And what if you don’t even think of yourself as especially creative?Today’s guest Laura M. Holson has some ideas. She’s a l...

Finding Creativity Outside of Work
A few weeks back on the show, we were talking with our own Coach Larry about what to do if you base your entire identity on your job. Which unsurprisingly, is NOT the healthiest way to live.One piece of Larry’s advice was to make sure there’s “something else” in your life other than work, including creative pursuits. But how do you work an extra passion project into your busy schedule? And what if you don’t even think of yourself as especially creative?Today’s guest Laura M. Holson has some ideas. She’s a l...

How To Handle That Coworker Who Pushes Your Buttons
So we’ve been getting a lot of questions lately from listeners struggling to deal with “button pushers.” These are other employees in the office who get under your skin, and you just can’t stop obsessing over them.To remedy that, we can think of no better expert than our own Coach Larry Seal. He’s the founder, CEO and an executive coach at Engaged Leadership. Today, Larry chats with Liz and Rico about how to “stay in your lane” when it comes to those annoying colleagues.Then, we hear from an anonymous liste...


What To Do When Work Takes Over Your Identity
So we’ve all met this person, or maybe we *are* this person: someone so wrapped up in their job that it provides them with their entire identity. Take that job away, and they’d be totally unmoored.It’s not a good place to be psychologically, I think we can agree. And here to help us identify when we’ve crossed the line into the dark zone, and what to do about it, is our own Coach Larry Seal. Seal is the founder, CEO and an executive coach at Engaged Leadership, and he’s seen this play out more than a few ti...

The Best ‘Bad Advice’ With Quinn Cummings
We’d like to think we have some experience saving our listeners from bad advice. After all, we have a segment that’s literally called “Bad Advice.” But in a SFW twist, we’re gonna chat today with Quinn Cummings, whose job is to actually give what she calls “bad advice.”As a kid, Cummings earned an Oscar nomination for her role in the movie “The Goodbye Girl.” She’s also an author, and now hosts a podcast in which she answers listeners who seek her advice on topics from work, to relationships, to wigs. It’s ...

The Best ‘Bad Advice’ With Quinn Cummings
We’d like to think we have some experience saving our listeners from bad advice. After all, we have a segment that’s literally called “Bad Advice.” But in a SFW twist, we’re gonna chat today with Quinn Cummings, whose job is to actually give what she calls “bad advice.”As a kid, Cummings earned an Oscar nomination for her role in the movie “The Goodbye Girl.” She’s also an author, and now hosts a podcast in which she answers listeners who seek her advice on topics from work, to relationships, to wigs. It’s ...


Introducing Good Life Project
Every week, we share inspirational, intimate and disarmingly-unfiltered conversations about living a fully-engaged, fiercely-connected and purpose-drenched life. From iconic world-shakers like Elizabeth Gilbert, Brene Brown, Sir Ken Robinson, Seth Godin and Gretchen Rubin to everyday guests, every story matters. Listen at wondery.fm/SafeforWorkGLP...

Introducing Good Life Project
Every week, we share inspirational, intimate and disarmingly-unfiltered conversations about living a fully-engaged, fiercely-connected and purpose-drenched life. From iconic world-shakers like Elizabeth Gilbert, Brene Brown, Sir Ken Robinson, Seth Godin and Gretchen Rubin to everyday guests, every story matters....

How Great Leaders Lead By Serving
We don’t wanna seem cynical, but we think future generations might be able to call this period of history The Age Of Disillusionment: where we’re constantly disappointed by and losing faith in all sorts of institutions and leaders. Especially in business, where it’s easy to feel increasingly like nice guys finish last.But we don’t believe that has to be true. Here to tell us how nice leaders are actually GOOD for business is Marcel Schwantes. Schwantes is a speaker, executive coach, podcaster, and columnist...


Work Smarter, Not Harder
We get a lot of questions from folks about how to quit a difficult or stressful job. But perhaps our favorite task here is to help you become better and more efficient at your current gig--so maybe you won’t have to quit, or resort to anxiety meds.And to that end, Liz and Rico are talking to one of their favorite guests: Morten T. Hansen. Hansen is a management professor at the University of California, Berkeley, and author of the book, “Great at Work.” He’s here to explain a research-based list of “work sm...

Navigating the Entrepreneurial Landscape
We at SFW understand the allure of entrepreneurship. You get to be your own boss, be creative and call the shots when it comes to your business. BUT we also know that it involves a lot of sleepless nights and juggling multiple gigs, either in the transition from one business to the next, or balancing your day job with your side hustle. So joining us today is Shaan Patel, an entrepreneur, founder of the SAT and ACT prep course, Prep Expert, and a “Shark Tank” winner. Patel is here to share his experience fig...

Prepared For Departure: Liz and Rico Hear Your Quitting Stories
The world is full of quitters. And we mean that literally! Everyone gets around to quitting, probably multiple times in a career. In keeping with that theme, our show today is all about calls from listeners who are planning to escape, or already have escaped some horrible work situations!First, listener Doris, has been trying to walk away from her job for a while, but wants to know if she should finally take the plunge. Then, listener Jennifer shares our favorite kind of story, one that involves a SFW episo...


Finding The Difference Between Passion & Purpose
If there’s one common refrain when people give career advice, it’s something like: “Do what you’re passionate about.” But that advice may be way too simple, and may actually do more harm than good. To find out more about how passion plays into our career choices, Liz and Rico reach out to Morten Hansen, a management professor at the University of California, Berkeley, and author of the book, “Great At Work.”  Then, Liz and Rico chat with listener Diane, who’s in the same boat as a lot of people out there, w...

Finding The Difference Between Passion & Purpose
If there’s one common refrain when people give career advice, it’s something like: “Do what you’re passionate about.” But that advice may be way too simple, and may actually do more harm than good. To find out more about how passion plays into our career choices, Liz and Rico reach out to Morten Hansen, a management professor at the University of California, Berkeley, and author of the book, “Great At Work.”  Then, Liz and Rico chat with listener Diane, who’s in the same boat as a lot of people out there, w...

How To Tackle Tricky Conversations At Work
Our bread and butter on this show is giving advice to folks who are dealing with… let’s call it less-than-ideal boss situations. And we often tell people that to resolve these conflicts, it usually involves having to actually talk to the boss about it.But we’re well aware those can be tricky conversations, and it’s easier said than done. So here with some tips to approach it is Joseph Grenny. He’s a four-time New York Times bestselling author and a leading social scientist for business performance. Grenny a...


Are You an Unlikeable Employee?
So pretty much every week, we field questions from people who have problems with work colleagues who are mean, gossipy, backstabby… all that good stuff. And because you listeners obviously have the good taste to download our show, we’re inclined to believe you are 100 percent perfect, and your workmates are indeed 100 percent lame.But sometimes, when you have friction with other employees, the problem may be you. And here to talk about how to recognize that, and what to do about it, is our friend Kat Boogaa...

Introducing The Lead: Your New Daily Sports Fix
From Wondery and The Athletic, The Lead is the first daily sports podcast that will bring you one big story each day from The Athletic's all-star team of local and national sports reporters. Subscribe now to hear new episodes each weekday morning: http://wondery.fm/TheLeadED...

Introducing The Lead: Your New Daily Sports Fix
From Wondery and The Athletic, The Lead is the first daily sports podcast that will bring you one big story each day from The Athletic's all-star team of local and national sports reporters. Subscribe now to hear new episodes each weekday morning: http://wondery.fm/TheLeadED...


Knowing When to Ditch Your Gig
“Should I Stay Or Should I Go.” It’s not just a classic punk tune, it’s a question you, our apparently totally punk listeners, ask us pretty much every week. When is it time to leave a job?  And how do you go about doing it?Tess Vigeland feels your pain. She’s a journalist, writer and podcast host. And maybe her proudest gig was being Rico’s boss years ago! Vigeland left a successful but draining career to pursue her dreams, and even wrote a book about it. It’s called “Leap.” She chats with Liz and Rico tod...

Knowing When to Ditch Your Gig
“Should I Stay Or Should I Go.” It’s not just a classic punk tune, it’s a question you, our apparently totally punk listeners, ask us pretty much every week. When is it time to leave a job?  And how do you go about doing it?Tess Vigeland feels your pain. She’s a journalist, writer and podcast host. And maybe her proudest gig was being Rico’s boss years ago! Vigeland left a successful but draining career to pursue her dreams, and even wrote a book about it. It’s called “Leap.” She chats with Liz and Rico tod...

How Much Employee Loyalty Is Too Much?
“Loyalty” is generally considered a pretty positive word. But it can have some negative consequences when you’re talking about a workplace: i.e. staying in a toxic situation when a better job offer awaits. Yes, this is a dilemma that you, our listeners, have written to us about.For a rundown on some employee loyalty data, and a reminder to keep your best interests front and center, Liz and Rico chat today with UK-based business writer, Alicia Clegg. Alicia will also discuss her recent Financial Times articl...


How Much Employee Loyalty Is Too Much?
“Loyalty” is generally considered a pretty positive word. But it can have some negative consequences when you’re talking about a workplace: i.e. staying in a toxic situation when a better job offer awaits. Yes, this is a dilemma that you, our listeners, have written to us about.For a rundown on some employee loyalty data, and a reminder to keep your best interests front and center, Liz and Rico chat today with UK-based business writer, Alicia Clegg. Alicia will also discuss her recent Financial Times articl...

Wondery Presents Imagined Life Season Two
What is it like to be famous before you’re famous? What is it like to walk in the shoes of another person? Each episode of Imagined Life takes you on an immersive journey into the life of a world-famous person. It’ll be someone you may think you know, even admire -- or maybe the opposite. You’ll get clues to your identity along the way. But only in the final moments will you find out who “you” really are. So sit back, let go, and -- imagine your life, with our hosts, Oscar nominated Virginia Madsen and cele...

Can You Tell If Your Boss Is Spying On You?
It’s just a fact of working life: Your employer is watching you. But are you aware of the extent to which it’s happening?Let’s just say it’s pretty extensive. For some details on this, Liz and Rico chat today with Sarah Krouse. She’s a Telecom reporter for the Wall Street Journal who recently wrote a piece with the self-explanatory title, “The New Ways Your Boss Is Spying on You.” And after Sarah’s interview, Liz presents a couple company surveillance scenarios to Rico and asks him to guess if they were dee...


Liz and Rico Take YOUR Calls, Dear Listeners!
Today on SFW, we’re going to use the phone for its God-given purpose: to communicate with a whole bunch of listeners! Yep, our entire episode is dedicated to conversations with you, our podcast people, about your career questions, problems, and successes. Because talking with you is really our favorite thing to do.First up, we have listener Stacey, who has a really great problem on her hands: an intern that’s perhaps too helpful. Then Liz gives a “Board of Directors 101” lesson to Adrian, who’s planning to ...

Liz and Rico Take YOUR Calls, Dear Listeners!
Today on SFW, we’re going to use the phone for its God-given purpose: to communicate with a whole bunch of listeners! Yep, our entire episode is dedicated to conversations with you, our podcast people, about your career questions, problems, and successes. Because talking with you is really our favorite thing to do.First up, we have listener Stacey, who has a really great problem on her hands: an intern that’s perhaps too helpful. Then Liz gives a “Board of Directors 101” lesson to Adrian, who’s planning to ...

How To Protect Yourself from Hackers at Work
Now more than ever, our work lives happen online. And that means more of our work records, including information we’d prefer not to get into the wrong hands, are stored in our computers and in the cloud… ripe for nefarious types to steal.So here to offer some digital-security ideas that your company might not have trained you to consider, is Stephanie Carruthers. She’s what’s called a “white hat” hacker, with the very James Bond-y handle “Snow.” Stephanie joins Liz and Rico today for a quick-fire round of t...


The Exit Interview of your Dreams
One of the biggest work stories in the last several years has gotta be the push for more diversity of all kinds in the workforce. And not just because it’s morally the right thing to do, but also because it’s good business.While there’s more awareness of that than ever, there’s the inevitable parallel phenomenon: pushback from workers and management who are weary of talking about it. Diversity Consultant and Sacred Heart University Professor Janice Gassam has given that phenomenon a name: “diversity fatigue...

Introverts, You’ve Got This! Navigating The Social Work Scene
Every now and then, we’ve noticed that trends in psychology seep into everyday conversation. And lately it seems like there’s a lot of talk about whether you’re an extrovert or an introvert. Here today to discuss what that means, and how you can manage your work life if you happen to be the latter, is journalist Jessica Pan. Pan is the author of the brilliantly-titled book, “Sorry I’m late, I Didn’t Want To Come.” In it, she details her journey doing extroverted things despite being a self-professed introve...

Introducing Bachelor Happy Hour with Rachel & Ali
“Bachelor Happy Hour with Rachel & Ali” takes fans behind the scenes with all things Bachelor Nation-related in the first ever, official Bachelor podcast. You’ll hear from current cast members and get the details on what really happened when the cameras stopped rolling. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts at http://wondery.fm/BHHED...


Preparing For The Future of Work
We’ve all heard about how technology is encroaching on jobs us humans depend on. And according to a recent Oxford University study, as many as 47 percent of all jobs are likely to be eliminated by automation within the next 20 years. Because we’re all about solutions here at SFW, Liz and Rico are chatting today with Art Bilger and Jane Oates of WorkingNation, a campaign to prepare workers for changes tech may bring to their industry, and what the jobs of the future will be. Their first suggestion? Don’t pan...

Finding Comedy in a Workplace Battlefield
So here on SFW, we try to leaven the occasional awfulness of work with some humor. And our guest Ginny Hogan has a new book that’s 112 pages of basically that. Her book “Toxic Femininity in the Workplace: Office Gender Politics Are a Battlefield” (Morrow Gift, 2019) comes out Sept. 10. And you may have encountered her pretty damned hilarious satirical pieces in such esteemed publications as McSweeney’s, Vulture and The New Yorker. Ginny joins us today for some anecdotes about her perils in the tech world an...

Resume Solutions For Gaps In Employment
We get tons of emails from listeners who need advice about applying for jobs; and, in particular, about creating resumes. Yet somehow we’ve never addressed one of the more vexing resume problems: what to do when you have a gap in your employment. Like, if you were downsized out of a job for a while, or you took time off to raise kids.So to help us figure out how to communicate those gaps in your resume, we’re joined today by certified counselor and career coach Steven Starks. He’s here to go through some di...


Wondery Presents: The Moment
Epic proposals, surprise grand gestures, and...Taylor Swift? The Moment premieres July 10th. Don't miss the epic engagement story of Ross & Alex, first up in season one. Subscribe now at wondery.fm/moment...

Knocking Networking Off Its Script
If you’ve ever felt like networking is the worst, well, it can be. But get ready for some ways to make it less doom-laden! Today, we continue our conversation with Priya Parker, master facilitator and author of the book, “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters.” Priya’s here to tell us how to start a non-boring conversation at a company mixer and even ask for help from experts in your field.Then Liz and Rico chat with listener Sarah whose plans for a seemingly forthcoming promotion were foiled...

Eat Healthy, Even With The Boss
Steak dinners with the CEO. After-work drinks. That Bloody Mary in business class… These are all part of the decadence that often pairs with meeting colleagues, clients, and the boss--especially when it’s on your company’s dime. But today’s guest, Jackie London, is going to lay out some ways to keep you from overeating, even when someone else does the ordering. Jackie is a registered dietitian and author of the book “Dressing on the Side (and Other Diet Myths Debunked): 11 Science-Based Ways to Eat More, St...


An Inside Look At The Cannabis Biz
We get emails from listeners who toil at a whole range of jobs. But lately, we’ve been hearing from more folks in an industry that, not long ago, you wouldn’t even admit to being part of for fear of doing jail time. This is about---you guessed it--cannabis! For an inside look at that “field,” Liz and Rico are joined today by Jim McAlpine, founder of the marijuana legalization campaign “CannaDads” and co-founder of Green Sky Strategy, a consulting firm for the cannabis industry.   Then Liz and Rico chat with...

Making Work Meetings Count
If you’ve ever done an epic eye roll when staff meeting invites pop-up on your screen, we’ve got a secret weapon to making those encounters worth your time. Her name is Priya Parker, author of the book, “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters.” Priya joins Liz and Rico today to tell us how to make everything from dinner parties to mundane office meetings (gasp) actually productive. And that includes embracing “good controversy.”Then we’ll hear from listener Lauren, who wants Liz and Rico’s ble...

The Secret To Managing Your Remote Team
We’ve talked a lot on the show about ways to stay sane as a remote worker, but managing a remote team is a whole different animal. So we’ve called on David Deacon, author of “The Self Determined Manager: A Manifesto for Exceptional People Managers,” to shed light on how bosses can help their employees feel like part of the team, even from halfway around the world. Then, Liz and Rico will chat with listener Jenn, who just stepped into a new role at her company, but can’t escape her terrible boss. And we hear...


Is Rage Quitting Ever Worth It?
Regular SFW listeners may recall a tale of Rico’s, where he suddenly quit a less-than-ideal video store gig by hurling a bag of popcorn to the floor and storming out. We can all agree that’s not the best way to exit a job. But what can we learn from people who leave their jobs in a blaze of glory? For some insight, we hear from Refinery29 career and personal finance writer Ludmila Leiva, who recently wrote an article about “rage quitting.” Then we’ll hear from listener Lisa, who asked a recruiter for a cert...

Introducing Inside Star Wars
Heroes, villains, action... all set in a galaxy far, far away. Join Inside Star Wars and go behind the camera and find out how one of the most iconic series in film history came to be. Listen now at: http://wondery.fm/ISWED...

Happy Birthday, Coach Larry!
We’re celebrating a big birthday today on Safe For Work with our own Coach Larry Seal! And he’s decided to party with us by offering some classic SFW advice to a listener who’s tried everything in our playbook to get her boss to delegate: A.K.A. What to do when you can’t trick your bad boss into thinking the solution is their idea.Then Liz and Rico chat with a woman who’s having a hard time staying afloat at work because of a lack of direction from management. And in this week’s Work Pop segment, we’re look...


The Problem With ‘Work/Life Balance’
If there’s one issue dominating our topics of conversation on the show, except possibly how to ask for a raise, it’s how to achieve that mythical zen goal of perfect work/life balance. But today’s guest, work environment sociologist and author Tracy Brower, says we’re thinking about work/life balance all wrong. She explained her opposition to the popular term in a recent Fast Company magazine article, and joins Liz and Rico for a rundown of her approach to making our professions and personal lives gel.Then,...

Justin Long Gets Personal on "Life is Short"
Life is Short with Justin Long finds the actor sitting down with some of the funniest and most intriguing people of today, like Dax Shepard, Olivia Wilde and Neil Patrick Harris. No topics are out of bounds, and no questions are too personal. So things might get a little NSFW!Subscribe to Life is Short with Justin Long and start listening at wondery.fm/lifeisshort...

How To Deal With Friction In The Workplace
We’ve received countless calls and emails about ineffective leaders and annoying colleagues. So in order to better handle the bad seed(s) in the office, we’re turning to award-winning author and management science and engineering professor at Stanford, Bob Sutton. He’s here to tell us how to deal with co-workers who just “gunk up” the workplace and slow everything down, and why being passive-aggressive isn’t always a bad tactic.  Then, we’ll hear from listener Brenda who’s afraid of falling off a “glass cli...


Squashing Public Speaking Fears
If you’re one of the many who shudder at the thought of public speaking, we’re here for you! Today’s episode is chock-full of tips to put the kibosh on work presentation nerves. For more on that, Liz and Rico chat with Matt Rossin, a trainer with Jack E. Rossin Presentation Skills Training in Boston. He’s sharing some practical and surprising ways to kill it the next time you’re in front of an audience.Then listener Jeff feels like he’s achieved as much as he can at his job, but is hesitant to leave a great...

Too Eager? How To Keep Your Cool In An Interview
So here’s one of the biggest catch-22’s for job seekers: You’re desperate for a certain job, but you can’t *seem* like you’re desperate for the job because no one wants to hire someone who seems desperate! Here with some strategies to prepare for that, along with many other job-interview pitfalls, is Kit Warchol. She’s a writer, consultant and the former executive director of Career Contessa, a site for women making mid-career transitions. Then, we’ll hear from listener Matt who’s worried a new employer won...

Wondery Presents: I, Survivor
Wondery’s I, Survivor is back for a brand new season, along with six new stories of resilience and survival. You’ll hear from those who fought back against all odds, including Terra Newell (Dirty John), Tommy Caldwell (Free Solo), and more.Subscribe to I, Survivor at wondery.fm/isurvivor...


Sharing At Work Without Oversharing
We get a lot of emails from our listeners asking about how much personal information to share at work. Whether it’s about an illness or upcoming weddings, where do you draw the line? Our own Coach Larry Seal is back with some tips on what you should divulge in the office, and when to keep things to yourself.And listener Bob is faced with a tough decision about whether to leave his current job to move closer to family, now that he’s expecting his second child.Then in Lingo Bingo, Liz and Rico discuss a list ...

Dealing With A Bad Manager
We’ve all dealt with a bad boss at one point or another. And if not, LUCKY YOU! But if you currently have to tiptoe around your manager, we’ve brought in Liz Fosslien for some work survival tips. She is the co-author and illustrator of the best-selling book No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotions at Work and head of content at Humu, a company that uses behavioral science to make work better. Fosslein chats with Liz and Rico on how to stay sane in an otherwise pleasant work environment.Then ...

We Hear From YOU, Dear Listeners
Our favorite part of Safe For Work, besides the snacks, is YOU--our dear listeners! So it only made sense for us to dedicate an entire show to your calls. We’ll hear from listener Sarah, who has moved into a new position in her company, but is still stuck doing her old job, on top of her new job. Sarah floats an interesting solution by Liz and Rico. Then, caller Cindy is 62, and has just been laid off from her fundraising position at a small university. Cindy gives a rundown of the steps she’s taken to get ...


Featured Podcast: Reality Life with Kate Casey
Kate Casey is host of the uber popular Reality Life with Kate Casey podcast. Every Friday Kate interviews reality stars of the past and present, and leading directors of producers of your favorite reality shows. She also asks a wide array of guests to dissect an episode of a reality television show for your enjoyment. Catch the rest of the episode at wondery.fm/reality...

Negotiating For What You Really Want
Negotiating in a job interview is arguably one of the most nerve-wracking parts of the hiring process. But it doesn’t have to be that way! For a lesson how not to get stumped when talking to a potential employer, Liz speaks executive recruiter Sarah Van Dyck who has some expert advice on how to ask for what you really want out of a job, and we’re not just talking about salary.Then, we’ll hear from listener Jennifer who had to stop working for 18 months to take care of her ailing husband. Now Jennifer is rea...

Tackling Ethical Dilemmas at Work
There’s a reason business ethics is an entire university course...it’s complicated. But our very own Coach Larry Seal joins us for at least a way to begin to think about ethical dilemmas at the office, like how to handle a request from your boss that goes against your values. Hint: Things may not be what they seem.Then on this week’s Work Pop segment, we explore what the 2001 romantic comedy Bridget Jones’s Diary tells us about quitting in spectacular fashion. And in our latest round of Bad Advice, Liz and ...


Accepting Feedback Gracefully
Receiving constructive criticism can be easy in theory, but tough in practice. For some tips on how to take advantage of feedback, Liz and Rico speak to Wisconsin-based freelance writer Kat Boogaard, whose preferred topics include career and self-development. Kat will reveal ways to get through those tough conversations and thrive, instead of just gritting your teeth and bearing it. Then, we’ll hear from listener Emilie, who’s having some trouble figuring out how to give feedback to her indecisive manager. ...

Bouncing Back From Failure
Failure is often seen as something negative, but it’s not always a bad thing. When one door closes, another opens. Or, if you’re like television and film producer Nina Jacobson, you make your own door, so to speak. Jacobson’s credits include The Hunger Games and Crazy Rich Asians. But she was also fired as a Walt Disney Company studio exec more than a decade ago. In this episode, Jacobson will talk about what she learned from her own failures to become the success she is today.Then, Liz and Rico give will g...

The Art Of Office Space Intervention
Decluttering isn’t a new concept. But it seems like the war on clutter is especially intense at the moment, thanks to Marie Kondo and others who are taking messy spaces by storm. In this episode, we’ll talk to author Gretchen Rubin about her new book, Outer Order, Inner Calm: Declutter and Organize to Make More Room for Happiness. Liz will ask Gretchen for an “office space intervention” (goodbye old power cords!) and discuss whether decluttering actually makes you more productive. Then, Liz and Rico speak t...


Achieving The Ever-Elusive Work-Life Balance
The perpetual battle between time spent at work vs. home can be heart-wrenching. But if your kid is asking for an appointment to get a hug, Coach Larry joins us with some thoughts on how to change that. In this episode, Larry will parse the challenges men and women face to find time for family, the importance of your phone’s “Do Not Disturb” function and how to carve out a personal life (or even [gasp] a vacation!) without feeling like you’ve left your colleagues hanging.Then, Liz and Rico help returning li...

Introducing Rico's New Podcast, One Plus One
Every great collaboration is a love story. It’s intense. Passionate. Along the way, there are flashes of love, hate, pride, ego, ambition, and brilliance. This is One Plus One, the show about the spark that drives two original thinkers to ultimate success. We’ll unearth the stories of Paul McCartney & John Lennon, Frida Kahlo & Diego Rivera, Beyonce & Jay-Z, Shaq & Kobe, and many more, and learn what it is about their chemistry that led them to greatness. Subscribe to One Plus One today at wondery.fm/OnePlu...

Avoiding Burnout When You’re Always Available
Despite the large number of benefits they’ve put into the world, technologies like email, iPhones, and instant messaging have blurred the lines between when we are and aren’t available for work. So on today’s show, BuzzFeed News’s Anne Helen Petersen, author of the hugely viral article How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation, talks about how we can avoid the creep of digital burnout that’s coming for all of us, regardless of our generational identity. Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Joan, who’s look...


Alternatives To Going Nuclear
What do you do when you’ve been pushed to your limit at work, but you don’t want to go nuclear and start suing people? Well, a few weeks back, we got a call from a listener named Vivienne. She’s dealing with some discrimination from the owner of her company; also, that same owner of the company is dating the head of HR. And our call with her left us wondering, “Well, what can you do that’s not a) leave your company, b) put your head down and ignore it, or c) go nuclear and take the owner to court?” So we ca...

How To Succeed As A New Manager
It’s an unfortunate reality of the working world that many people become managers without ever having been trained to actually manage others. So today, Coach Larry joins us with his do’s and don’ts for new managers: topics include being humble, thinking of yourself as a performance coach, and never jockeying for credit. Then, Liz and Rich help listeners Julie, who’s being stretched too thin at her job, and Debbie, who’s juggling multiple job offers...and somehow that’s a bad thing! And we debate whether or ...

Finding Security & Conquering Unhealthy Attachment Styles
Elizabeth Grace Saunders, author and time management coach, joins us to explain how our attachment styles -- that is, a subconscious attunement that we’ve developed over the course of our lives, and that often dictates how we impulsively react to events around us -- can provide insight into our stumbling blocks at work, and how understanding your attachment style can make your work-life happier and more fulfilling. Then, we help two listeners who are struggling with those pesky, ever-annoying job titles: Le...


“Modern Elders” And Making Age An Asset At Work
Chip Conley, entrepreneur and author of the book Wisdom @ Work: The Making of a Modern Elder, joins us to discuss how we can fight against ageism in the workplace by reconsidering what it means to be, or to work with, an “elder.” Chip tells us about how his time as a mentor/intern (or as he calls it, a “mentern”) at Airbnb shaped how he approaches his younger colleagues, and how embracing and celebrating the wisdom one gains with age is crucial for older workers in today’s workplace. Then, Liz and Rico help...

How to Robot-Proof Your Career
Kara Swisher wears many hats: she’s the executive editor of the website Recode, she hosts the podcasts Recode Decode and Pivot, and she writes for The New York Times. And she joins us on today’s show, with all of her expertise, to talk about how automation and AI will change the jobs we have; plus, she has the steps we should take to robot-proof our careers, and how education needs to change in response to the shifting landscape of labor. Then, we help listener Morgan, whose bosses rearranged her office...a...

Making An Action Plan For 2019
Last week, we focused on what we want from the new year; this week, it’s all about how to make your work-life dreams a reality in 2019. Coach Larry Seal joins us once again with his steps for making a New Year action plan, and how to take easy steps to get out of your comfort zone. Then, author and host of the podcast By The Book Kristen Meinzer explains why only some advice sticks with us, and how making baby steps towards writing her first book helped her bounce back from a major work-life disruption. And...


Envisioning A Better Work-Life For 2019
We made it to the new year, and we’re kicking things off with a two-part series about making positive changes to your work-life in 2019. On today’s episode, our very own Coach Larry Seal joins us with the five questions we should ask ourselves to figure out what we want to improve when it comes to work, from the big career changes to the small tweaks that will make your work-life better. Then, tech journalist and author Manoush Zomorodi talks about quitting her public radio job and diving into the world of ...

It’s All About Rico Gagliano
It’s the second episode of our two-part special celebrating our lovely hosts, and that means it’s time to put the spotlight on our very own Rico Gagliano. Our special guest this week was a member of Rico’s now-disbanded sketch comedy troupe, and he has some real stories to tell about their early days in LA. Then, Liz interviews Rico about his childhood aspirations, work-life ethos, and the creation of Dinner Party Download. And Rico answers your questions about his favorite recipes.As we mention in the epis...

Getting To Know Liz Dolan
We’re celebrating the end of the year by releasing two episodes that turn the focus onto our lovely hosts, and while we’re covering Rico next week, this episode is all about the one and only Liz Dolan. First, we’re joined by none other than one of Liz’s first coworkers, and she tells us all about what Liz was like as a child (and if she’s changed at all since then). Then, Rico interviews Liz Dolan herself; topics include studying Comparative Literature in college, arriving at Nike during the birth of the “J...


A Very Special Not Safe For Work Episode
That’s right, folks, it’s time to cleanse ourselves of our workplace sins before the new year begins, and boy, do y’all have some stories to tell. Topics include vomit (of course), ice-packs for vasectomy recovery, stealing office supplies from bosses who wronged us, and a photo of a coworker’s newborn daughter...that also features that male coworker completely nude on the edge of the photo. Then, writer/former child star/former talent agent Quinn Cummings shares a workplace story that’s still the subject o...

Finding The Right Coach/Therapist For Your Career
A listener of ours wrote in with a question about her burned-out, aimless husband: should he see an executive coach? A life coach? A therapist? Fortunately, we’re pretty tight with an executive coach, our very own Coach Larry Seal, so he joins us today to talk about the strengths of each of these specialists, and how to tell when it’s time to seek some more advice about your career. Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Emily, whose boss is being weirdly resistant to updating her job title, and James, whose sid...

Surviving The Holidays At Work
There are lots of things to love about the holidays — so much food! Sweater weather! A valid excuse to listen to “All I Want For Christmas Is You” for hours on end! However, navigating holiday etiquette at work is not one of those wonderful things. So on today’s show, etiquette experts Lizzie Post and Daniel Post Senning are back to talk all things holiday office parties, Secret Santa, and out-of-office emails. Then, we help listeners Bill, who loves his job but might jump ship while it’s being restructured...


Grammar Girl’s Quick And Dirty Tips For Language At The Office
Mignon Fogarty, also known as Grammar Girl, joins us today to answer your questions about language in the workplace: like, “Is it one space or two after a period,” or “Can I use ‘asap’ in a work email,” or the classic, “Why do we love verbing our nouns?” Then, Liz and Rico go over your passive-aggressive email techniques and touch on some more Lingo Bingo oddities (bonus points if y’all can make “frippery” catch on at your office). And we help listeners Lisa, whose talent evaluation took a weird turn with q...

How To Network Like A Pro
Karen Wickre, former Google executive and editorial director at Twitter, joins us to explain how social media has made networking way easier, particularly for introverts. Then, Liz and Rico help Ryan, who wants to know if she should put her entry-level job on her business cards, and Emma, whose VP is not being particularly understanding while Emma’s trying to care for her ailing grandmother. And we tackle some all-too-common Bad Advice, like, “Don’t leave before the boss leaves.”Read more about Karen Wickre...

How to Stay Sane When You're Working From Home
Kat Boogaard, staff writer at The Muse, joins us to talk about the surprisingly challenging aspects of working from home, plus she gives us her tips on how to tell if you’re the kind of person who could responsibly handle working remotely (if you have a predilection for watching Vine compilations on Youtube, working in an office might be better for you). Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Samantha, whose new job is being ruined by major changes at her company, and Amanda, who’s struggling to connect with her...


Eating Healthy In The Office
Chef and author Curtis Stone joins us today to talk about a truly dreaded topic: how to eat healthy and well at work. He gives us his favorite meals to prep for lunch at work (including an amazing recipe, listed below), to why snacking throughout the day can actually be a good thing (assuming you’re not just like eating nachos all day). Then, Liz and Rico chat with listener Tabitha, who might be going too far with her efforts to separate her job from the rest of her life. Plus, we discuss the best and worst...

How To Survive an Open Office Floor Plan
Do you work in an open office that’s usually very quiet, where people are more focused on their computers than the coworkers right next to them? If so, a recent study found that that’s the norm. Ethan Bernstein, co-author of that study and Associate Professor in the Organizational Behavior unit at the Harvard Business School, joins us to talk about why open offices actually stifle in-person communication, while encouraging more digital communication between coworkers.Then, Liz and Rico help listeners Jenine...

Working With Friends, featuring TheSkimm Founders
Carly Zakin and Danielle Weisberg, co-founders of the multifaceted media company The Skimm, join us to talk about how their friendship powered them through the unpredictable early days of starting a business together, and they give us their advice on how to tell if a friendship will survive once it’s part of a business venture. Then, Liz and Rico do what they do best: help some listeners! Daphne’s boss just hired his unqualified sister and the nepotism is running the company into the ground, while Steven’s ...


How to talk about illnesses in the office
Dr. Elizabeth Lombardo joins us once again, this time talking about the sensitive subject of illnesses and chronic conditions at work — from the best ways to support a coworker dealing with one, to how to disclose them to one’s boss. Listener Jessica can’t seem to get along with a coworker who might become her boss, while Nate’s manager isn’t giving him any feedback or making him a priority. And today’s Mind the Gap covers frequent office nightmares like farewell cards, office smalltalk, and Thanksgiving po...

Using Myers-Briggs Responsibly At Work
On today’s show, Coach Larry Seal breaks down all the ways that Myers-Briggs can be used responsibly in the workplace, and why some companies’ insistence on using it as a hiring or team-building tool is a mistake. Then, etiquette experts Lizzie Post and Daniel Post Senning offer their advice on how to get that chatty coworker to leave you alone. And Liz and Rico help a listener who’s trying to overhaul the communication culture at her job all by herself.To find your Myers-Briggs type, you can take an unoffi...

Avoiding Workplace Envy
Executive coach and author Susan Peppercorn joins us on this episode to give her top 5 tips on avoiding or getting over envy in the workplace. Then, we’ve all heard the advice “never say no” when it comes to work; but is it actually good advice? Our sage hosts will decide. And, as always, we help you, our lovely listeners: Christa’s dealing with a potential case of plagiarism at her agency, while Scott’s trying to decide if it’s the right time to leave his poorly-run company.To find out more about Susan Pep...


Stopping Burnout Before You Get Burned
Today, our own Dr. Stephen Danisger joins us to diagnose the early warning signs for workplace burnout, and what to do to prevent yourself from getting burnt out at work. Then, Liz and Rico help some listeners: Sarah has to talk to her supervisors about getting ergonomic furniture at the office, and an anonymous emailer is attempting to avoid burnout by looking for work overseas. And a pair of etiquette experts critiques our sage hosts on their responses to some common workplace pitfalls in a special editio...

Working With Your Inner Critic
Our featured guest on today’s show is Dr. Elizabeth Lombardo, who gives us her advice on how to live with that nagging little voice in your head: the pesky inner critic. Then, Liz and Rico help a listener who’s never negotiated for herself before. And our hosts continue everyone’s favorite waking nightmare of corporate jargon in today’s Lingo Bingo.Find out more about what your inner critic is saying to you by taking Dr. E’s quiz at doyouhaveics.com.If you've got a burning workplace question and need some a...

Confronting Bias In The Workplace
On today’s show, NYU professor/author Dolly Chugh joins us to talk about the ways to identify and overcome bias — unintentional or otherwise — in the workplace. Then, Liz and Rico help a listener who’s dealing with some bias-infused feedback at work. And we get some job posting wisdom straight from the source of the crew at ZipRecruiter.Find out more about Dolly Chugh’s book, “The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias,” here: http://www.dollychugh.com/book/If you've got a burning workplace quest...


Happiness is Good Feedback
Our man on the inside, Coach Larry joins us on this episode for the dos and dont’s of giving — and receiving — feedback at work: from how to encourage an underperforming employee, to the steps to create a better environment for consistent, helpful feedback in the office. Then, Liz and Rico noodle their way through another Lingo Bingo, and an etiquette expert helps us deal with a real stumper of a question.If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email. Yo...

Back To Work After A Baby
On today’s episode, writer/entrepreneur Allyson Downey joins us with her most important advice for women coming back to work after having kids. Then, Liz and Rico finally hit some bumps in the road in Mind the Gap. And we help some of you, our lovely listeners: Mia’s trying to negotiate a raise, but she might be feeling too grateful to her company, and Krista’s having trouble setting boundaries with her classroom budget.Additional reading:— Find out more about Allyson’s book here: http://allysondowney.com/b...

SFW Live: Embracing unpredictability with Patty McCord
A couple of weeks ago, we had the pleasure of hosting a live Safe For Work taping for Women in Cable Telecommunications at the offices of Boingo Wireless in Los Angeles. There, Liz and Rico talked with Patty McCord, former Chief Talent Officer at Netflix, about how to treat employees like adults, and how interviewing is the most important skill you’ll need for your career. Then, Boingo’s CMO Dawn Callahan gives us her five tips on going with the flow when your career takes an unexpected turn. And we play so...


Resumes, cover letters, and interviews, oh my!
On today’s show, Liz and Rico cover the bases on how to make an appealing resume, write a stellar cover letter, and ace your job interview. First, resume and cover letter Ali B. Gant gives us the do’s and dont’s for resumes these days. Then, Ladan Hayes of Career Builder joins us to go over what you should and shouldn’t disclose in a job interview.Additional reading:— www.fastcompany.com/40587988/should-i-come-out-during-the-hiring-process— www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/affinity/LGBTguide.php— www.fastc...

A freelancer’s guide to work-life balance
Coach Larry Seal joins us once again to discuss matters of work-life balance, but today we’re focusing on how to have a healthy relationship with your work...when you’re your own boss. Then, Liz and Rico set the record straight on some bad advice about unpaid internships, and they debate some of the eternal workplace questions, like “how early should you arrive before a job interview,” in today’s Mind the Gap.If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email...

Establishing work-life balance
On today's show, Coach Larry Seal gives us his tips for setting boundaries at work when your work-life balance is out of whack, plus how to tell if a workplace encourages a healthy balance between work and the rest of your life. Then, Liz and Rico commiserate over the traumatic experience of watching "Up in the Air," and we help two callers who can't seem to establish good work-life balance.If you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email! You can reach us ...


Gossip at work...can be good?
Okay, let's make this clear from the top: we here at Safe For Work are not staunch supporters of office gossip. From the office politics of peddling secrets, to the ease with which gossip can breed cliques and cabals, there are plenty of pitfalls when it comes to workplace gossip. But on today's episode, Amy Gallo of the Harvard Business Review makes some very compelling points as to why gossip can be...well, good! Then, Liz and Rico rail against the verbiage of the corporate world in today's iteration of L...

Meeting a new coworker
Liz and the rest of us here at Safe For Work have a new coworker in our midst — his name is Rico Gagliano, and he’s going to be the new co-host here. And with Rico’s arrival, we were all wondering: what’s the best way to actually get to know a new coworker? So on today’s show, Liz and Rico talk about the things that have worked for them when they’ve been the new kid on the block, as well as their tips for making a new employee on your team feel welcome (hint: bonding at work DOES NOT have to involve ice-bre...

What's Safe For Work?
The show is about making your work life better… because that makes your life life better. Hosted by Liz Dolan, former chief marketing officer of Nike, the Oprah Winfrey Network, and National Geographic...and co-host of the long-running podcast, Satellite Sisters along with Rico Gagliano a former reporter for the public radio business show “Marketplace,” contributor to The Wall Street Journal… and was also the award-winning co-creator and co-host of the pioneering podcast The Dinner Party Download. So if you...