Second Life

Second Life Podcast

Join our host, Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, as she chronicles the career changes that can come at any age in our podcast, Second Life.

Renee Dua, MD: Heal Co-Founder and Chief Medical Officer
Renee Dua, MD, is a nephrologist and internist. She helmed her own private practice in Los Angeles and served as chief of medicine at Valley Presbyterian and Simi Valley Hospitals. But after years in the healthcare industry, and one particularly frustrating visit to the ER on the patient’s side of things, Dua had a lightbulb moment. In creating a new kind of healthcare system based around house calls and telehealth, she could cut down on patient wait times and create accessibility for those for whom getting...

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Annie Lawless: Lawless Beauty Founder and CEO
Annie Lawless is the founder and CEO behind the high-performance, highly pigmented, and clean makeup line, Lawless Beauty. The line has seen explosive growth since its 2017 launch, including being picked up by retail giant Sephora, in addition to its direct-to-consumer business. But before Lawless was creating high-impact natural makeup, she was obsessing over clean ingredients in another industry altogether: food and beverage. Lawless was a co-founder of one of the largest cold-pressed juice companies in t...

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Jen Wong: Reddit Chief Operating Officer
Reddit’s chief operating officer, Jen Wong, is a digital media expert through and through. In her current role, she calls on a plethora of previous work experience at AOL, Popsugar, and Time Inc. and is helping lead the 600-person company on the road to serious growth. But before she was overseeing business strategy at the fifth most visited website in the US, and before her foray into media entirely, she actually started out in finance. In this episode of Second Life, hear how she used business school as a...

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Ayesha Curry: Chef, Restaurateur, Cookbook Author, and Culinary Entrepreneur
Ayesha Curry is an accomplished culinary entrepreneur. Her foray into food began with a blog and a Youtube channel, which have grown into a community of over 9 million followers and subscribers. Since building her platform, she’s become a cooking-show host, a restaurateur with three International Smoke locations, an active philanthropist feeding thousands of families suffering from food insecurity in the Bay Area, and a best-selling cookbook author. Her newest book, The Full Plate: Flavor-Filled, Easy Recip...

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Lesley Thornton: Klur Beauty Founder and CEO
Lesley Thornton is the founder and CEO behind the botanically based collection of high-performance skincare and multipurpose self-care products, Klur. One look at the assortment and it’s clear that Lesley has intentionally crafted every element of the line—from science-driven formulations to customer education to a sustainable business model. But her path to a crystal-clear brand vision wasn’t a linear one. Hear how Lesley went from working as a freelance makeup artist to an on-air beauty expert for the TLC...

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Sarah Sherman Samuel: Interior, Product, and Textile Designer
Sarah Sherman Samuel is a multidisciplinary designer working with interiors, textiles, products, and decorative arts, which she curates together to create truly remarkable spaces. She’s designed everything from rugs and wallpaper to hardware and tiles to the gorgeous homes of celebrities and tastemakers like Mandy Moore and Garance Dóre. One look at her stunning Instagram feed and the unique, blended aesthetics will give you more design inspiration than you’ll know what to do with. But before Sherman Samuel...

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Tia Mowry-Hardrict: Actress, Producer, Author, and Founder of Anser
Tia Mowry-Hardrict first graced our screens back in the early ’90s as one half of the iconic twin duo in the hit sitcom Sister Sister. Since then, she’s gone on to star in countless other projects—everything from Twitches to The Game to her beloved Youtube Channel, Tia Mowry’s Quick Fix—and over the years, she’s also added producer and best-selling author to her resumé. But after years of success in the entertainment industry, she’s used her hard-earned skills (among them, a healthy dose of persistence and ...

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Suzy Batiz: Poo-Pourri and Supernatural Founder and CEO
Suzy Batiz is a truly self-made female entrepreneur, and a successful one at that. Between her two businesses, the before-you-go toilet spray Poo~Pourri, and her line of natural cleaning concentrates, Supernatural, her empire is valued at over $500 million. But getting there was a long road filled with over 27 career changes, an abusive marriage, and two bankruptcies. Hear how Suzy persevered and overcame it all, on this episode of Second Life....

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Nyakio Grieco: Founder of Nyakio Beauty
Nyakio Grieco is the founder and creator of Nyakio Beauty, an award-winning line of skincare products initially inspired by her own Kenyan heritage and family’s beauty recipes. Since its launch in 2002, Nyakio has expanded to include cultural traditions from 13 countries around the world that have been historically underrepresented in mainstream beauty and skincare. Today, the products are beloved and highly accessible via Target.com, but Grieco’s entrepreneurial journey wasn’t easy. After much perseverance...

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Heather Cocks and Jessica Morgan: Creators of Go Fug Yourself and Best-Selling Authors
Heather Cocks and Jessica Morgan have been writing together since they founded their witty celebrity fashion blog, Go Fug Yourself, back in 2004 as a way to procrastinate from their day jobs. Today, not only are the “Fug Girls” pioneers in the space, but they’ve also received rave reviews as novelists with the best-selling The Royal We—loosely based on the courtship of Prince WIlliam and Kate Middleton—and the highly anticipated sequel, The Heir Affair, which just hit bookshelves on July 7. But before they ...

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Aminatou Sow: Call Your Girlfriend Host and Author of Big Friendship: How We Keep Each Other Close
Aminatou Sow is the co-host of Call Your Girlfriend, the “podcast for long-distance besties everywhere,” alongside her Big Friend and collaborator, Ann Friedman. On July 14th, the pair released their first book together, Big Friendship: How We Keep Each Other Close, which has already amassed praise by everyone from Hillary Clinton to Roxane Gay to Vogue. But before Aminatou was a literary thought leader and media legend, she had a previous life in tech where she worked for Google and co-founded the Tech Lad...

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Karen Young: Oui the People Founder and CEO
Karen Young, Founder and CEO of Oui the People, is building an entirely new shaving experience for women and non-binary people. By creating a stainless-steel safety razor designed specifically for sensitive skin, luxurious personal-care products, and a brand that speaks to women intelligently and relatably, it’s no surprise that her products keep selling out time and again and have over 400 5-star reviews on the brand’s site. But there have been many twists and turns along the way. On this episode of Second...

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Lauren Chan: Henning Founder and CEO
Lauren Chan started her career as a plus-size model alongside women like Ashley Graham and Candice Huffine at Ford Models. With a foot in the fashion industry’s door, she parlayed her career into writing and freelanced for publications such as Vogue and Interview before becoming a fashion features editor at Glamour, where she had her own column on size inclusivity. In her latest pivot, she’s taken body inclusivity activism to the next level by founding Henning, a high-end workwear brand for sizes 12 and up....

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Brett Heyman: Edie Parker Founder and Creative Director
Brett Heyman is the founder of Edie Parker, the vintage-inspired acrylic handbag and accessories brand seen on virtually every red carpet ever. But just last year, Brett pivoted the brand in an unexpected way: into a cannabis accessories and private label flower company named Flower by Edie Parker. Find out how working in PR for brands like Gucci and Dolce and Gabbana led her to create an iconic brand of her own....

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Miranda Kerr: Supermodel and Kora Organics Founder and CEO
From signing on as Victoria’s Secret’s first Australian Angel to walking the Balenciaga runway while five months pregnant, Miranda Kerr cemented her status as an international supermodel years ago. On this episode of Second Life, hear how she used her experience in a surprising way: to found certified-organic skincare and beauty brand Kora Organics....

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Alison Cayne: Founder of Haven’s Kitchen Sauces, Cooking School, and Café
Alison Cayne is the founder of Haven’s Kitchen, a brand on a mission to make home cooking more enjoyable via a NY-based cooking school, café, event space, and line of all-natural refrigerated sauces available across the U.S. at grocers like Whole Foods. But before she set out to change the way people feel about cooking, she was busy raising five children. In this week’s episode, hear Cayne’s personal journey to finding professional alignment....

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Shelley Gibbs Sanders: The Last Line Founder and Creative Director
Shelley Gibbs Sanders worked in the jewelry industry for over 15 years designing for brands like House of Harlow 1960, A.L.C., and Rachel Zoe before she set out to create The Last Line, a direct-to-consumer brand that turned the traditional fine-jewelry model on its head. Find out how she finally took the leap to found her own game-changing brand on this week’s episode of Second Life....

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Gucci Westman: Makeup Artist and Westman Atelier Founder and Creative Director
Prolific makeup artist Gucci Westman has one of the most influential careers in the beauty world. She’s responsible for the makeup on countless magazine covers (Vogue, Harper’s Bazaar) and in ad campaign and runway looks for the likes of Dior, Proenza Schouler, and Oscar de la Renta, and has a celebrity client list that spans the past two decades. Now, she’s the founder and creative director of Westman Atelier, a line of clean, high-performance, and luxurious beauty products. Hear how she made the leap, plu...

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Joy Cho: Oh Joy! Founder, Creative Director, and Author
Joy Cho is the founder of Oh Joy!, a design studio, lifestyle brand, and creative hub where she brings her signature aesthetic to the masses. Oh Joy! has licensed product lines in home décor, kids apparel, pet products, and so much more at retailers including Target, Anthropologie, Calpak, and Petco. As if that weren’t enough, Joy has also authored three books for adults, and most recently, a three-part book series for children. On this episode of Second Life, hear how Joy leveraged her education in graphic...

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Lisa Price: Carol's Daughter Founder
Multicultural beauty brand Carol’s Daughter has retained a cult-like following since the ’90s, with brand evangelists including Halle Berry, Jada Pinkett Smith, and yes, Oprah. But when founder Lisa Price started dabbling in aromatherapy oils out of her Brooklyn apartment, her days looked quite different. She worked as a production coordinator on television programs like The Cosby Show, and it wasn’t until Price’s mother, Carol, pushed her to sell her products at a local flea market that her hobby became so...

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Lisa Price: Carol's Daughter Founder
Multicultural beauty brand Carol’s Daughter has retained a cult-like following since the ’90s, with brand evangelists including Halle Berry, Jada Pinkett Smith, and yes, Oprah. But when founder Lisa Price started dabbling in aromatherapy oils out of her Brooklyn apartment, her days looked quite different. She worked as a production coordinator on television programs like The Cosby Show, and it wasn’t until Price’s mother, Carol, pushed her to sell her products at a local flea market that her hobby became so...

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Catherine McCord: Culinary Entrepreneur and Cookbook Author
Catherine McCord, founder of healthy-eating destination Weelicious.com, author of three cookbooks, and co-founder of the family-friendly food-delivery service One Potato, has built a healthy-living empire. Not exactly the career path you might expect from a former Calvin Klein and Victoria's Secret runway model. Find out how McCord made the pivot and the best skills she’s using from her modeling days on this episode of Second Life....

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Catherine McCord: Culinary Entrepreneur and Cookbook Author
Catherine McCord, founder of healthy-eating destination Weelicious.com, author of three cookbooks, and co-founder of the family-friendly food-delivery service One Potato, has built a healthy-living empire. Not exactly the career path you might expect from a former Calvin Klein and Victoria's Secret runway model. Find out how McCord made the pivot and the best skills she’s using from her modeling days on this episode of Second Life....

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Sali Christeson: Argent Founder & CEO
Sali Christeson, the founder and CEO of the brand revolutionizing women's workwear, Argent, is creating professional, practical and vibrant pieces to equip women with the confidence they need to shatter the glass ceiling. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Christeson used her past career as a finance and tech exec as a tool to pivot into creating a brand that provides a solution for women around the world....

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Justina Blakeney: Designer, Artist, and NYT Best-Selling Author
Designer, artist, best-selling author and founder of bohemian-inspired design blog and online shop Jungalow, Justina Blakeney, is known for her unique style which is full of color, patterns and plants. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Blakeney manifested a career in the belief of the importance of creative self expression....

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Justina Blakeney: Designer, Artist, and NYT Best-Selling Author
Designer, artist, best-selling author and founder of bohemian-inspired design blog and online shop Jungalow, Justina Blakeney, is known for her unique style which is full of color, patterns and plants. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Blakeney manifested a career in the belief of the importance of creative self expression....

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LIVE! with Sharon Chuter: UOMA Beauty Founder, CEO, and Creative Director
After numerous years working in the beauty industry at multinational beauty businesses, including L'Oreal and Benefit Cosmetics, Sharon Chuter started her own beauty brand, UOMA Beauty, dedicated to re-writing the rules of inclusivity, representation, and diversity within the industry. On this live episode of Second Life, find out how Chuter's past career experiences and forward-thinking has pushed the beauty industry forward....

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Danielle Bernstein: We Wore What Fashion Influencer, Designer, and Tech Founder
Influencer, entrepreneur, author, and designer, Danielle Bernstein, has established herself as an influential voice in the fashion/blogger community by transitioning her street style blog into a burgeoning business. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Bernstein has grown her brand beyond fashion, all on her own terms....

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Alison Roman: Cook, Best-Selling Author, and NYT Columnist
Cook, writer, and author Alison Roman is renowned for her best-selling cookbooks, column in The New York Times, and internet-famous recipes like #TheStew, #TheCookies, #TheDip. Prior to becoming the internet’s favorite culinary celebrity, however, she worked in pastry in L.A., SF, and NYC (where she helped Christina Tosi open the Milk Bar empire). On this episode of Second Life, find out how Roman transitioned into a career of recipe writing and culinary acclaim....

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Karolína Kurková: Model and Founder of Gryph & IvyRose
As one of the most iconic supermodels of this generation, KarolÍna Kurková has made a name for herself in the fashion industry. However, what most people don't know is Kurková's other passion lies within holistic health and wellness. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Kurková found inspiration in her passion to create an extremely successful wellness brand....

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Katie Sturino: Megababe Founder and CEO, Influencer, and Body-Positivity Advocate
Entrepreneur, social media influencer, body positivity advocate and animal activist, Katie Sturino has created a career dedicated to empowering women to find confidence and feel comfortable in their own skin. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Sturino found her voice in the industry and realized it was a time to make a change....

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Katie Sturino: Megababe Founder and CEO, Influencer, and Body-Positivity Advocate
Entrepreneur, social media influencer, body positivity advocate and animal activist, Katie Sturino has created a career dedicated to empowering women to find confidence and feel comfortable in their own skin. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Sturino found her voice in the industry and realized it was a time to make a change....

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Kristen Bell: Actor and Co-Founder of Hello Bello and This Saves Lives
While Kristen Bell is renowned for her lead acting roles in critically-acclaimed series including Veronica Mars and The Good Place and box office hits like Forgetting Sarah Marshall and the Frozen franchise, she has a passion beyond the film screen. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Kristen Bell has established not one, but two companies devoted to giving back....

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Nicole Gibbons: Clare Founder and Interior Designer
Nicole Gibbons, founder of first-ever direct-to-consumer paint brand, Clare, is completely disrupting the paint industry. On this episode of Second Life, find out how this former Global PR Director turned interior designer has built a company that has fulfilled its mission to uncomplicate the paint shopping experience....

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Kat Von D: Tattoo Artist, Beauty Entrepreneur, Shoe Designer, and Musician
Kat Von D is a true creative icon. From tattoo artist and beauty mogul to designer and activist, Von D has utilized her artistry to start multiple, wildly successful empires. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Von D has managed to build authentic creative businesses, while staying true to her vision and voice....

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Asya Varetsa: Sleeper Co-Founder
Inspired to create pajamas that are both comfortable enough for a night in, but also chic enough to wear out, co-founder, Asya Varetsa, has built a successful nightwear brand with no fashion design experience whatsoever. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Varetsa applied her past experience of being a fashion market editor at ELLE to design fashion's favorite pajamas, Sleeper....

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Hillary Peterson: True Botanicals Founder and CEO
Hillary Peterson, the founder and CEO of trustworthy skincare line True Botanicals, has set out to transform skincare by formulating clean, organic products without harmful toxins. On this episode of Second Life, find out how why Peterson was forced to take a look into her own beauty regimen and decided to ultimately change the course of skincare by solving a problem....

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Reese Witherspoon: Actress, Producer, and Hello Sunshine Founder
Reese Witherspoon is without a doubt an iconic female of our generation. From actress and producer to entrepreneur and activist, Witherspoon has paved her way through Hollywood. On this episode of Second Life, find how out Witherspoon has transitioned her wildly successful acting career into a platform dedicated to rewriting the narrative for women....

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Tina Craig: Bag Snob Blogger, U Beauty Founder, and Estate Five Co-Founder
Tina Craig, globally known as Bag Snob, is a creative force in the industry paving her own career path, while remaining fearless every step of the way. On this episode of Second Life, find out how exactly Bag Snob emerged nearly 15 years ago and how today Craig has evolved her brand into multiple successful companies....

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Holly Thaggard: Supergoop! Founder
Holly Thaggard, the founder of beloved skincare brand Supergoop!, has built a company with the mission to reduce the epidemic of skin cancer by shattering sunscreen stereotypes. Previously beginning her career as an elementary teacher, find out how Haggard thought of the idea to start a SPF brand on this episode of Second Life....

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Ariane Goldman: CEO and Founder of Twobirds New York and HATCH
Ariane Goldman, CEO and Founder of both Twobirds New York and HATCH, is disrupting the industry by providing solutions for the voids in women's wardrobe. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Ariane transitioned from her eight-year career at American Express into marrying her creativity and strong business foundation to build two successful companies....

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Nicole Richie: House of Harlow 1960 Founder and Creative Director
Style icon and entrepreneurial trendsetter, Nicole Richie has built a burgeoning business empire over the past decade. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Nicole transitioned from her career in entertainment, originally starring on A Simple Life, into creating a multi-faceted fashion brand—all on her own terms....

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Amanda de Cadenet: Photographer, Media Personality, and Girlgaze Founder and CEO
Entrepreneur, journalist, author, photographer, and activist, Amanda de Cadenet, is known as one of the most influential creatives in the industry. From TV host to noteable photographer to CEO, find out how Amanda de Cadenet evolved through various careers ultimately leading her to create the platform, Girlgaze, on this episode of Second Life....

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Amanda de Cadenet: Photographer, Media Personality, and Girlgaze Founder and CEO
Entrepreneur, journalist, author, photographer, and activist, Amanda de Cadenet, is known as one of the most influential creatives in the industry. From TV host to noteable photographer to CEO, find out how Amanda de Cadenet evolved through various careers ultimately leading her to create the platform, Girlgaze, on this episode of Second Life....

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Cindy Crawford: Supermodel, Entrepreneur, and Meaningful Beauty Co-Founder
Iconic supermodel, Cindy Crawford, is widely known for being one of the original models who pivoted from being not just a model, but also a true star and style icon. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Cindy combined her years of modeling experience with her business savvy to expand her career beyond modeling throughout the decades....

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Sallie Krawcheck: Ellevest Co-Founder and CEO
Sallie Krawcheck, the CEO and founder of digital-first, mission-driven investment platform for women, Ellevest, is redefining what it means to be a successful woman on Wall Street (hint: it's not easy). On this episode of Second Life, find out how Sallie implemented her years of experience on Wall Street into a career dedicated to empowering women financially....

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Jessica Koslow: Chef and Owner of Sqirl Cafe and Jams
Jessica Koslow, the chef and owner of renowned Los Angeles cafe, Sqirl, went from being the digital producer at Fox to one of the most innovative chefs in the culinary scene. On this episode of Second Life, find out how Jessica transitioned her hobby into a fulfilling career....

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Rachel Zoe: Fashion Entrepreneur, Stylist, Designer, and Author
Rachel Zoe is an absolute powerhouse. Her online style destination, The Zoe Report, reaches over 14 million monthly users worldwide. Her ready-to-wear and accessory line, Rachel Zoe Collection, is carried at retailers such as Net-a-Porter, Shopbop, and Revolve. Zoe is also the founder and chief curator of the luxury fashion, beauty, and lifestyle subscription service Box of Style, and she's authored two books. Find out how her first life as a stylist has informed it all....

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Rea Ann Silva: Beautyblender Founder and CEO
Rea Ann Silva went from being a professional makeup artist to becoming the founder and CEO of Beautyblender. On this episode of Second Life, find out how she changed the way millions of people apply their makeup....

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Cindy Capobianco: Lord Jones Co-Founder and Chief Brand Officer
Before Cindy Capobianco founded Lord Jones, the CBD brand that has taken the cannabis industry by storm, she worked as a fashion editor and in PR and marketing. Find out how she made the major pivot in this episode of Second Life....

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Angelica Nwandu: The Shade Room Founder and CEO
The Shade Room has over 16 million followers and counting, but before Angelica Nwandu founded it, she was on her way to becoming an accountant. Listen to the story of how she made the switch....

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Angelica Nwandu: The Shade Room Founder and CEO
The Shade Room has over 16 million followers and counting, but before Angelica Nwandu founded it, she was on her way to becoming an accountant. Listen to the story of how she made the switch....

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Kelly Oxford: New York Times Best-Selling Author
It's hard to sum up Kelly Oxford's career without resorting to a list. She's a New York Times best-selling author, screenwriter, sexual assault activist, social media sensation, and mom of three. Oxford wasn't always career-focused, though. In episode five of our podcast, Second Life, she explains what it was like to go from stay-at-home mom to social media star and breadwinner in a matter of tweets.Originally broadcast on March 19, 2018....

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Emily Henderson: Home Style Expert and Design Guru
Emily Henderson is proof that when you're passionate about something, you can turn it into a thriving career—no matter what you studied in college or where you started out. “I learned on the job and I think it’s a very good way to start and build your career," she tells Hillary Kerr. Find out how Henderson went from being a prop stylist to running a design blog and getting her own show on HGTV without any traditional design or business education.Originally broadcast on August 27, 2018....

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Mandy Moore: Actress and Singer-Songwriter
There are two ways to tell Mandy Moore’s career story. While we’re familiar with the highlight reel—Moore was a breakout singer at just 15 and is a Golden Globe nominee—the real story is far more complex. In this episode of Second Life, Moore opens up about self-doubt and setbacks and how they helped shape the woman and actor she is today.Originally broadcast on May 21, 2018....

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Ty Haney: Outdoor Voices Founder and CEO
Tyler Haney knows activewear. She was raised in Boulder, Colorado—a town known for its outdoor activities—and grew up running track and field. With a few courses in business and design under her belt paired with the desire to create a sporty uniform for recreational activity, Haney eventually became the CEO and founder of her own brand, Outdoor Voices. However, her journey was filled with challenges and missteps that she looks back on as lessons learned.Originally broadcast on November 26th, 2018....

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Ty Haney: Outdoor Voices Founder and CEO
Tyler Haney knows activewear. She was raised in Boulder, Colorado—a town known for its outdoor activities—and grew up running track and field. With a few courses in business and design under her belt paired with the desire to create a sporty uniform for recreational activity, Haney eventually became the CEO and founder of her own brand, Outdoor Voices. However, her journey was filled with challenges and missteps that she looks back on as lessons learned.Originally broadcast on November 26th, 2018....

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Christina Tosi: Milk Bar Founder and CEO
Before Christina Tosi started Milk Bar—the trendy bakery known for its covetable, playful desserts—she was studying math and Italian in college with dreams of becoming a mathematician, a UN translator, or a perhaps a truck driver (yes, really). "I like to be uncomfortable," the entrepreneur tells Hillary Kerr on this episode of Second Life. Drawn to restaurant life with a passion for baking, Tosi moved on from her mathematical endeavors to pursue cooking at culinary school and (with a lot of hard work) went...

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Eva Chen: Instagram's Director of Fashion Partnerships
Eva Chen's résumé reads like the front row of a well-stocked magazine stand. She's held jobs at publications like Harper's Bazaar, Elle, Teen Vogue, and Lucky (where she was editor in chief, no less). Although landing a job as editor in chief of a major publication sounds like the peak of one's career, Chen was just getting started. Now, she's catapulted to director of fashion partnerships for Instagram, has written her first book (a children's story called Juno Valentine and the Magical Shoes), and is tryi...

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Lauren Conrad: Entrepreneur and The Little Market Co-Founder
Lauren Conrad ended up on one of the world's first major reality TV shows at the tender age of 17. Since then, she's grown into the cunning, experienced entrepreneur you know today. According to her, she wouldn't be where she is now—a New York Times best-selling author eight times over, designer of her own fashion line LC Lauren Conrad for Kohl's, and philanthropist behind the non-profit The Little Market—without the mistakes she made along the way. Originally broadcast on June 25, 2018....

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Emma Grede: Good American Co-Founder + CEO
Emma Grede is the CEO and co-founder of Good American, the hugely successful, size-inclusive fashion brand that she started with none other than Khloé Kardashian. But starting this business wasn't the first time Grede struck out on her own. She'd long been making a name for herself in the fashion and entertainment industries on the business side of things and had already checked starting a company off her list. "I am a person who can sell anything, and I think I just had that naturally," she tells Hillary K...

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Ellen Bennett: Hedley & Bennett Founder and CEO
If anyone has mastered the art of the hustle, it's Ellen Bennett. The entrepreneurial powerhouse behind Hedley & Bennett, a Los Angeles–based chef wear and handcrafted apron company, started her own business at age 24 while working as a line cook at not one but two prestigious restaurants in L.A. "I was permanently running on adrenaline, and I loved it," she tells Hillary Kerr. Now, she's outfitting top chefs around the world, including the likes of Martha Stewart, Jamie Oliver, Jon Shook, and Vinny Dotolo....

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Aurora James: Brother Vellies Founder and Creative Director
There was a time when Aurora James never thought she'd have a seat at the proverbial table. Now, after dipping her toes in multiple industries, she's at the helm of the sustainable fashion company Brother Vellies and is proof that if you have a goal, you can make it happen, even if that means finding a new way of getting there. "I always knew that I wanted to work in fashion. I just knew that fashion wasn't working for me in a way that I needed it to," she tells us. Originally broadcast on August 8, 2018....

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Jen Atkin: "The World's Most Influential Hairstylist"
In an updated and extended interview from our very first episode, Hillary sits down with Jen Atkin, celebrity stylist and founder of cult haircare line Ouai. Dubbed the "most influential hairstylist in the world" by The New York Times, Atkin counts Bella Hadid, Chrissy Teigen, and Kendall Jenner as clients. Here, she gets candid about the power of social media, reflects on her journey from salon apprentice to CEO of a thriving business, and explains why mental toughness is the most underrated quality.This e...

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Anine Bing: Founder & Chief Creative Officer of Anine Bing
Anine Bing launched her successful clothing and accessories line in 2012, but her days once revolved around modeling, music, and blogging. Listen to the story of her career pivots on this week's episode....

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Jennifer Meyer: Jewelry Designer and Founder of Jennifer Meyer Jewelry
Jennifer Meyer’s career has taken a non-linear path that went from psychology to fashion editorial to PR before she founded her now wildly popular jewelry brand. Listen to her story on Second Life....

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Lauren Kleban: Celebrity Trainer and Founder of LEKFit
Lauren Kleban started out as a professional dancer and now runs L.A.’s popular LEKFit workout studio. Hear about her career journey and what’s next for her company on Second Life....

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Life Lessons | Anastasia Soare: Anastasia Beverly Hills Founder and CEO
When Anastasia Soare immigrated to Los Angeles from her native Romania in the early ’90s, she had no idea she’d someday change the way we collectively groom our brows. But after attending aesthetician school and getting a job at a salon on Melrose Place, she noticed that her facial clients weren’t taking proper care of their brows. Sensing a white space, she eventually launched her own salon where she dedicated herself to shaping brows of A-list clients. On this episode of Life Lessons, she’s talking us thr...

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Paige Adams-Geller: Paige Founder and Creative Director
Paige Adams-Geller was a fit model and actress before founding lifestyle and denim brand Paige in 2004. The brand now has a global presence and a slew of celebrity fans....

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Life Lessons | Laura Vassar: Brock Collection Co-Founder
Laura Vassar has spent most of her life crafting beautiful ready-to-wear, a passion that began in high school when she learned to sew and designed her own prom dress. She met her future husband (and business partner) Kristopher Brock while studying at Parsons in New York City, and the rest is history: Their brand Brock Collection is now stocked at fine department stores and on big-time sites like Net-a-Porter and Moda Operandi. On this week’s episode of Life Lessons, she’s offering up advice for aspiring de...

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Nancy Twine: Briogeo Founder and CEO
Nancy Twine went from working at Goldman Sachs to becoming the founder and CEO of clean, buzzy haircare brand Briogeo. Find out how she did it on Second Life....

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Life Lessons | Molly McNearney: Jimmy Kimmel Live! Co–Head Writer
When Molly McNearney arrived in Los Angeles and landed an interview to work as an assistant producer at Jimmy Kimmel Live, she jumped at the chance (although she admits she had no idea who Kimmel was at the time). The job wasn’t glamorous, but the initiative she showed in those early days led to other opportunities on the show. She worked her way up the ranks and into the writers’ room, eventually earning her current status as head writer. On this week’s Life Lessons episode, McNearney offers up advice for ...

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Whitney Tingle: Sakara Co-Founder and Co-CEO
Whitney Tingle went from working on Wall Street to co-founding Sakara Life, the go-to meal-delivery service of celebrities like Chrissy Teigen. Hear about her journey from finance to wellness on Second Life....

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Life Lessons | Mercedes Abramo: Cartier North America President and CEO
Mercedes Abramo, president and CEO of Cartier North America, has never been one to avoid taking risks or making moves. In fact, her career as a businesswoman has taken her all over the world, from the Ritz Carlton in Maui to business school in Paris to a stint at Tiffany & Co. in New York City before landing her at Cartier, where she worked her way all the way up the ladder. Tune in to this week’s Life Lessons episode as she chats with Hillary and offers up insights on expanding your skill set, learning how...

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Ariel Kaye: Parachute Founder and CEO
Ariel Kaye started her career in PR and digital advertising. Now she’s the founder and CEO of Parachute , the wildly popular direct-to-consumer bedding and bath company. Hear the incredible story of her career on Second Life....

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Life Lessons | Gregg Renfrew: Beautycounter Founder and CEO
Gregg Renfrew has been an entrepreneur practically all her life… She started her own business cleaning summer homes when she was in college at the University of Vermont, she founded The Wedding List soon after she graduated (and later sold it to Martha Stewart!), and eventually she founded her current business, Beautycounter, which will be familiar to most of our listeners as a company that transformed the way we think about the ingredients we slather onto our skin. Tune in to Life Lessons for her wise word...

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Michelle Pfeiffer: Actor, Producer, and Founder of Henry Rose
In addition to her prolific acting career, Michelle Pfeiffer recently created a clean fragrance line called Henry Rose. Listen to her story and learn about her new venture on Second Life....

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Life Lessons | Tamara Mellon: Designer, Founder, and Fashion Entrepreneur
When Tamara Mellon started working at Brown’s in London at age 18, she never could have imagined that the experience would someday lead to working at British Vogue, co-founding Jimmy Choo, becoming a designer in her own right, and eventually starting her own eponymous label. On this week’s episode of Life Lessons, Mellon swings by to deliver important advice for entrepreneurs, explain what it’s really like working in fashion, and give us some insights into the game-changing model she’s adopted at her own co...

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Katherine Power: Who What Wear and Versed Founder and CEO
Katherine Power moved to L.A. on her own at 16 to be a professional dancer. Now, she’s the co-founder and CEO of Who What Wear while also leading its namesake clothing line at Target and new skincare line, Versed. Listen to the story of her fascinating career on Second Life....

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Life Lessons | Jenni Konner: Showrunner, Producer, Writer, and Director
Jenni Konner always knew she wanted to work in entertainment, but she didn’t necessarily know that she’d find herself executive-producing one of the most talked-about TV shows of our time. On this week’s episode of Life Lessons, find out how Konner found her way to Girls (which she ran alongside Lena Dunham) after spending time in writing rooms on shows like Undeclared and Help Me Help You, and discover valuable lessons she’s learned along the way....

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Kathryn Duryea: Year & Day Founder and CEO
After working as a special assistant at the White House, then in brand marketing for companies like Tiffany & Co., Kathryn Duryea started Year & Day, which is shaking up the tableware space with its chic, minimal plates, flatware, and glasses....

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Life Lessons | Karla Welch: Hollywood Stylist, Designer, and Founder of X Karla
Karla Welch is the in-demand stylist behind some of the biggest names in entertainment, from Justin Bieber to Tracee Ellis Ross to Elisabeth Moss. In the first episode of the Life Lessons series, listen to how she got her start in the industry, ramping her way up from scrappy shoots to working on Apple’s memorably iPod commercials and eventually taking on clients as a personal stylist. She’s had a serious effect on celebrity fashion, and she’s also changing the way we get dressed by way of her cool, in-dema...

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Erica Chidi Cohen: Loom Co-Founder and CEO, Doula, and Author
Erica Chidi Cohen is the co-founder and CEO of Loom, the Los Angeles–based empowered education and wellness center that focuses on everything from periods to parenting. In the latest episode of Second Life, listen to how she parlayed a background in the culinary and fine art worlds into becoming a doula and eventually co-founding Loom, where she’s helping people truly understand their bodies in a feminist, inclusive, sex-positive, and fact-based way....

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Reshma Saujani: Girls Who Code Founder & CEO, Author, and Activist
Reshma Saujani once had political aspirations, even becoming the first Indian American woman to run for Congress. Now, she's the CEO and founder of Girls Who Code, a nonprofit that aims to close the gender gap in technology. Learn about her inspiring career path on Second Life....

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Sarah Gibson Tuttle: Olive & June Founder and CEO
What happens when you leave an established finance career in NYC to open a nail salon in Los Angeles? Olive and June founder Sarah Gibson Tuttle has some answers. She had spent 10 years working as an equity sales trader at JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley when she noticed a white space in the beauty industry. Listen to Second Life to hear her story....

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Sarah Lee: Glow Recipe Co-Founder and Co-CEO
Korean skincare expert and Glow Recipe co-founder Sarah Lee spent years in the corporate beauty world at L'Oreal Paris before making the leap to start her own company, which has created cult products that have sold out numerous times on Sephora. Learn about her fascinating career journey on the newest episode of Second Life....

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Lykke Li: Singer, Songwriter, and Yola Mezcal Co-Founder
Swedish singer-songwriter Lykke Li has more on her plate than just her music career. In the newest episode of Second Life, she tells Hillary Kerr about co-founding an all-female mezcal brand called Yola Mezcal, which aims to economically empower women in Oaxaca....

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Shay Mitchell: Actress, Author, Producer, and Entrepreneur
Acting on not one but two hit shows may be satisfying enough for some, but Pretty Little Liars and You star Shay Mitchell is determined to pursue a variety of other interests. She's already written a YA novel and has developed a successful YouTube lifestyle channel, but now she's pivoting once again to travel entrepreneurship....

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LIVE! From SXSW With Liz Lambert: Bunkhouse Group Hotelier
How does one go from a job in the district attorney's office to a career as a hotelier running some of the coolest hotels in the U.S. and Mexico? Austin-based hotelier Liz Lambert, who runs the impossibly Instagram-worthy Hotel San Cristóbal in Todos Santos, among other properties, sits down with Hillary Kerr to share her journey from Manhattan to Texas and beyond....

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Jessica Yellin: Journalist, Author, and Former CNN Chief White House Correspondent
Where do you get your news? If Jessica Yellin's Instagram isn't at the top of your list, it will be soon. The former chief White House correspondent for CNN and founder of #NewsNotNoise tells Second Life how she took her Emmy-winning reporting skills to both social media and book publishing....

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Sophia Roe: Chef, Wellness Expert, and Content Creator
Sophia Roe's passion for food and wellness started as a distraction from her tough childhood. Growing up with parents who were substance abusers and eventually ending up in the foster care system, Roe found comfort and stability in both food and music. In the new episode of Second Life, Roe tells Hillary Kerr about overcoming unconventional beginnings, dropping out of college twice, and becoming a chef, wellness expert, and thought leader....

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Veronica Swanson Beard & Veronica Miele Beard: Veronica Beard Co-Founders
Armed with experience in finance and fashion buying, respectively, sisters-in-law Veronica Miele Beard and Veronica Swanson Beard started their fashion brand with a single jacket style and no business plan. A decade later, they have a successful label with seven brick-and-mortar stores. Here, they speak about working with a business partner, learning to trust your gut, and the question Anna Wintour asked them....

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Susan Tynan: Framebridge Founder and CEO
All of our guests have changed careers at some point, but Susan Tynan's path took several different turns on her way to raising $67 million in venture financing for Framebridge, a quick and affordable custom framing site. The founder and CEO, a Harvard Business School graduate, shares advice on how to accept "no" in your career, how to run a business ethically, and how to lift women up....

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Nancy Silverton: Celebrity Chef, Restaurateur, and Author
It started with a crush. Renowned chef, restaurant owner, and author Nancy Silverton first developed an interest in the food industry because she had a crush on a student cook at the dining hall of her college dorm and convinced him to hire her in the kitchen. Learn how she went from being a pastry chef to running her own empire and winning the food industry's highest honor....

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Raissa Gerona: Revolve Chief Brand Officer
L.A.-based retailer Revolve paved the way for influencer trips that now take over your Instagram feed, and Raissa Gerona is the brains behind the site's innovative strategy. Early in her career, she dealt with her parents' disapproval of her career path and a business failure, but you can bet she learned a thing or two on her way to becoming Revolve's chief brand officer....

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Sara & Erin Foster: Bumble Heads of Creative
Erin and Sara Foster are nothing if not honest. In the newest episode of Second Life, the sisters get real about feeling in over their heads, pursuing careers that paid the bills but weren't fulfilling, and regretting not going to college. Whether you know the Fosters from their parody-reality show on VH1, Barely Famous, or from their current positions as the heads of creative at Bumble, you'll learn a whole new side to the sisters....

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Shiona Turini: Stylist and Costume Designer
Shiona Turini has the résumé that anyone with a dream of working in fashion envies. In episode 50 of Second Life, she shares what she learned cutting her teeth at the industry's major print magazines before fearlessly moving into freelance styling and finally transitioning into costume design for HBO's acclaimed tv series Insecure....

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Sierra Tishgart: Great Jones Co-Founder
Everyone has interests outside of work, but not everyone knows how to turn their side hustle into a successful business. But it's safe to say that Sierra Tishgart, co-founder of cookware brand Great Jones, knows a thing or two about the transition. In the newest episode of Second Life, Tishgart tells Hillary Kerr how she went from being a Teen Vogue intern to becoming an entrepreneur in home cookware....

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Kendra Scott: Designer and CEO
How do you go from being a hat maker to running a billion-dollar jewelry brand? In episode 48 of Second Life, Kendra Scott tells Hillary Kerr about the embarrassment of dropping out of college, learning retail "the hardest way possible," and how she transitioned from running a hat store to creating one of the most successful jewelry brands on the market....

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Hannah Bronfman: HBFit Founder, DJ, and Author
Like many of us, Hannah Bronfman's most valuable college experience came from outside the classroom. Bronfman successfully pivoted from being a sculpture major to becoming fashion's favorite DJ and wellness master. In episode 47 of Second Life, Bronfman tells Hillary Kerr how she's learned to cope with the failure of a business venture, understand her worth, and inspire fans to lead a healthier, happier life....

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Aimee Song: Fashion Blogger, Influencer, and Author
Aimee Song's rise to fashion blogger stardom is a lesson in what you can accomplish by following your passions. The fashion guru behind Song of Style got her start working as a receptionist at a construction company right out of high school while saving up money to pay her own college tuition. It was there that she got her first taste for architecture and design and decided to go to school at the Academy of Art in San Francisco. However, one job interview changed everything. "I got the job because of my out...

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Jamie Kantrowitz: Countertop Foods Co-Founder and CEO
Jamie Kantrowitz co-founded Countertop with Nicole Rice based on the goal of helping people focus on wellness through simple and delicious home cooking. Today, the duo sells a variety of products from seasonings to honey, all meant to enhance both the flavor and nutritiousness of your food. But before all this, Kantrowitz was following a very different career path. She spent her twenties working in politics and digital media at companies like Rock the Vote and Myspace. "Even though I've jumped industries, t...

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Jennifer Lopez: Actress, Singer, and Producer with Writer and Producer Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas
Everybody knows that before Jennifer Lopez was the multihyphenate superstar she is today, she was Jenny from the block. But most people don’t know how she made the leap from a dancer to an actor to a singer to an icon. “I always knew from a very young age that I loved performing,” Lopez tells Hillary Kerr on episode 44 of Second Life. With the help of Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas (then her agent, now a producer), who’s had a few career swaps of her own, J.Lo catapulted herself to international success. Lopez’s p...

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Kerry O'Brien: Commando Founder and CEO
Kerry O'Brien never could have anticipated that her career in public relations would lead her to become an underwear designer, but that's exactly what happened. The entrepreneur started out in corporate PR, quickly making her way up the ranks (she was a vice president at just 25 years old). However, when September 11 happened, she felt like she needed a change. She quit her job without a plan, but it wasn't long before she found her next passion: women's underwear....

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Carla Hall: Chef, TV Personality, and Cookbook Author
Carla Hall was always a creative, but before competing on Top Chef, authoring cookbooks, and starring on The Chew, she was auditing at a big accounting firm and pursuing modeling in Europe. When she returned home from Europe—where she'd also taken up cooking—she stumbled into her own lunch delivery service that parlayed itself into catering, culinary school, and her rise to foodie fame. "It was really an adventure," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 42 of Second Life....

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Meredith Melling: La Ligne Co-Founder
Meredith Melling is proof that landing your dream job isn't the end of your career path. In fact, it might even just be the beginning. Melling always wanted to work in fashion, and with a bit of luck, good timing, and the smart decision to dress for the job she wanted, not the job she had, she landed the coveted title of a fashion assistant at Vogue early in her career. But that was only the start of her journey toward creating her own consulting business and co-founding fashion brand La Ligne....

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Ty Haney: Outdoor Voices Founder and CEO
Tyler Haney knows activewear. She was raised in Boulder, Colorado—a town known for its outdoor activities—and grew up running track and field. With a few courses in business and design under her belt paired with the desire to create a sporty uniform for recreational activity, Haney eventually became the CEO and founder of her own brand, Outdoor Voices. However, her journey was filled with challenges and missteps that she looks back on as lessons learned....

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Christina Tosi: Milk Bar Founder and CEO
Before Christina Tosi started Milk Bar—the trendy bakery known for its covetable, playful desserts—she was studying math and Italian in college with dreams of becoming a mathematician, a UN translator, or a perhaps a truck driver (yes, really). "I like to be uncomfortable," the entrepreneur tells Hillary Kerr on episode 39 of Second Life. Drawn to restaurant life with a passion for baking, Tosi moved on from her mathematical endeavors to pursue cooking at culinary school and (with a lot of hard work) went o...

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Cyndi Ramirez-Fulton: Chillhouse Founder
If you've ever visited NYC's trendy new spa-salon-café hybrid, Chillhouse, you can already appreciate the way Cyndi Ramirez-Fulton is cashing in on the wellness industry one adaptogen latte and hangover-curing massage at a time. The "destination for modern self-care," as she describes it, is stylish, relaxing, and affordable—not to mention incredibly Instagram-friendly. But Fulton wasn't always involved in the wellness world, though. In fact, she dropped out of college to work in the nightlife world promoti...

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Eva Chen: Instagram's Director of Fashion Partnerships
Eva Chen's résumé reads like the front row of a well-stocked magazine stand. She's held jobs at publications like Harper's Bazaar, Elle, Teen Vogue, and Lucky (where she was editor in chief, no less). Although landing a job as editor in chief of a major publication sounds like the peak of one's career, Chen was just getting started. Now, she's catapulted to director of fashion partnerships for Instagram, has written her first book (a children's story called Juno Valentine and the Magical Shoes), and is tryi...

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Kerry Diamond: Cherry Bombe Co-Founder and Smith Canteen Owner
Kerry Diamond has been starting businesses since she was in the third grade launching a school newspaper. "I am very fortunate in that I knew from a very early age what I wanted to do," she tells Hillary Kerr in episode 36 of Second Life. Although she started out in hard journalism, the entrepreneur pivoted to the beauty space and catapulted from beauty director at Harper's Bazaar to head of PR at Lancôme. All before striking out on her own to co-found Cherry Bombe, a biannual indie magazine that celebrates...

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Busy Philipps: Actress, Author and TV Host
Busy Philipps always knew she would be an actress. In fact, she was studying theater in college when she landed her first major role as Kim Kelly on the coming-of-age hit Freaks and Geeks. While she found success early on at the age of 19, her career hasn't been without setbacks, rejection, and grit. "I never have really fit into a lot of people's molds," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 35 of Second Life. But Philipps persevered in a male-dominated industry fraught with unrealistic expectations to come ou...

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Amber Lewis: Amber Interiors Owner, Designer, and Blogger
Interior designer Amber Lewis, the force behind Amber Interiors, is proof that you don't necessarily need a college degree or a straightforward career path to find success. With just a few semesters in an interior design program at UCLA, Lewis found work as an assistant at an interior design firm, and eventually branched out on her own. At the same time, the creative was getting married to a musician, having her first child, and taking every opportunity that came her way. "I was a perfect storm of...luck, t...

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Amanda Hesser: Food52 Co-Founder and CEO
Amanda Hesser is responsible for the chic e-commerce and community site Food52, which she launched with co-founder Merrill Stubbs in 2009. Before she struck out on her own, the foodie had a thriving career as an editor for The New York Times and as a cookbook author, both unexpected paths seeing as the entrepreneur studied economics and finance in college. "I had no idea really what I wanted to do, but I knew the sort of lifestyle I wanted," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 33 of Second Life. Here's how sh...

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Rosie O'Neill: Sugarfina Co-Founder and Co-CEO
If you've given or received a gift in the last six years, you've probably heard of Sugarfina, the luxury candy brand made for grown-ups. The champagne gummy bears and other adult-friendly candies wouldn't exist had it not been for Rosie O'Niell and a particularly good date she went on to see Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory with her now business partner and fiancé, Josh Resnick. Prior to starting her own whimsical venture, O'Niell was working in brand management at Mattel for Barbie. "When I did eventu...

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Emma Grede: Good American Co-Founder and CEO
Emma Grede is the CEO and co-founder of Good American, the hugely successful, size-inclusive fashion brand that she started with none other than Khloé Kardashian. But starting this business wasn't the first time Grede struck out on her own. She'd long been making a name for herself in the fashion and entertainment industries on the business side of things and had already checked starting a company off her list. "I am a person who can sell anything, and I think I just had that naturally," she tells Hillary K...

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Norah Weinstein and Kelly Sawyer Patricof: Baby2Baby Co-Presidents
Kelly Sawyer Patricof and Norah Weinstein, co-presidents of the nonprofit Baby2Baby, met on a blind date. Well, a double blind date with their husbands, orchestrated by Patricof's father-in-law. Since then, Patricof and Weinstein married their passion for helping others with their unique backgrounds in fashion and law to head up operations at Baby2Baby—an organization that started with just three women collecting donations for local families in need that has since blossomed into a wildly successful nonprofi...

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Ellen Bennett: Hedley & Bennett Founder and CEO
If anyone has mastered the art of the hustle, it's Ellen Bennett. The entrepreneurial powerhouse behind Hedley & Bennett, a Los Angeles–based chef wear and handcrafted apron company, started her own business at age 24 while working as a line cook at not one but two prestigious restaurants in L.A. "I was permanently running on adrenaline, and I loved it," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 29 of Second Life. Now, she's outfitting top chefs around the world, including the likes of Martha Stewart, Jamie Oliver,...

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Emily Henderson: Home Style Expert and Design Guru
Emily Henderson is proof that when you're passionate about something, you can turn it into a thriving career—no matter what you studied in college or where you started out. “I learned on the job and I think it’s a very good way to start and build your career," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 28 of Second Life. Find out how Henderson went from being a prop stylist to running a design blog and getting her own show on HGTV without any traditional design or business education....

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Jaclyn Johnson: Create & Cultivate Founder and CEO
When Jaclyn Johnson held the first Create & Cultivate conference in 2011 out of a desire to form a community of like-minded, creative women, she viewed it as a passion project, not a business. In fact, she still had a full-time gig running her own company at the time. "You have to have irons in the fire, and you've got to see what burns," she explains to Hillary Kerr on episode 27 of Second Life. That's how Johnson turned her side hustle into a thriving business that supports more women achieve their goals....

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Shani Darden: Celebrity Esthetician
Shani Darden is a name that rolls off the tongue of celebrities like Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, Jessica Alba, and Chrissy Teigen when they talk about their skincare. Now an expert esthetician with a client list that reads like a who's who of Hollywood, Darden wasn't always sure of her career path. In fact, she first moved to Los Angeles from her small town with dreams of becoming a model (and she has a Destiny's Child music video credit to prove it). "I just think it was one of those things where it took me...

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Aurora James: Brother Vellies Founder
There was a time when Aurora James never thought she'd have a seat at the proverbial table. Now, after dipping her toes in multiple industries, she's at the helm of the sustainable fashion company Brother Vellies and is proof that if you have a goal, you can make it happen, even if that means finding a new way of getting there. "I always knew that I wanted to work in fashion. I just knew that fashion wasn't working for me in a way that I needed it to," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 25 of Second Life....

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Linda Wells: Flesh Beauty Founder and Revlon Chief Creative Officer
When Linda Wells landed her first job as an editorial assistant in the beauty department of Vogue, she didn't have so much as a five-year-plan. She admits she could never have planned how her professional life—beauty editor turned editor in chief of a new magazine (a little publication called Allure) turned chief creative officer of Revlon and creator of the cosmetics line Flesh—would have turned out. On episode 24 of Second Life, Wells dishes about how she leaned into challenges and major changes to build ...

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Brooklyn Decker and Whitney Casey: Finery Co-Founders
Former broadcast journalist Whitney Casey and model-turned-actress Brooklyn Decker know something you don't. You spend years of your life—10 to be exact—picking out clothes to wear and to pack for all of life's many occasions. After identifying a massive white space in clothing and tech space, Casey and Decker figured out a way to give that precious time back to people with a seriously smart app called Finery. On episode 23 of Second Life, the two share how they turned one brilliant idea into a thriving com...

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Alli Webb: Drybar Founder
People with curly and straight hair alike know the power of a good blowout. It was this simple idea that catapulted Alli Webb from former hairstylist and stay-at-home mom to the haircare maven behind Drybar, the blow-dry bar that specializes in blowouts. Before discovering this untapped market in L.A., Webb honed her craft at beauty school on the East Coast, pivoted to a career in PR, and eventually found her way back to hair, where it all began. "It was just a whim and a hunch," Webb tells Hillary Kerr on ...

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Andrea Lieberman: A.L.C. Founder and Designer
Andrea Lieberman knew that she was meant to work in fashion ever since she moved to Manhattan at age 13. "I realized at a very early age that I just found what I was meant to do," she tells Hillary Kerr in episode 21 of Second Life. Lieberman parlayed her passion for the fashion industry, an education from Parson's School of Design, and over 10 years experience as a celebrity stylist to eventually launch her own line A.L.C....

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April Gargiulo: Vintner's Daughter Founder
Not everyone is lucky enough to stumble upon a career they're passionate about early in life. For April Gargiulo, the founder of skincare company Vinter's Daughter, it took three college degrees, stints in the design world, and time spent working for the family wine business for her to truly find her calling, and she's just getting started. Despite her untraditional path, she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 20 of Second Life, "There's nothing I would have done differently."...

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Lauren Conrad: Entrepreneur and TheLittleMarket.com Co-Founder
Lauren Conrad ended up on one of the world's first major reality TV shows at the tender age of 17. Since then, she's grown into the cunning, experienced entrepreneur you know today. According to her, she wouldn't be where she is now—a New York Times best-selling author eight times over, designer of her own fashion line LC Lauren Conrad for Kohl's, and philanthropist behind the non-profit The Little Market—without the mistakes she made along the way. “I believe in mistakes," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode...

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Marianna Hewitt: Influencer, Blogger and Co-Founder of Summer Fridays
When you grow up in Ohio with dreams of moving to Los Angeles, becoming a TV host, and owning a Range Rover, people don't always take you seriously, according to Marianna Hewitt. However, with a bit of luck, perseverance, and the skills to turn her dreams into reality, Hewitt moved to L.A. and not only became a TV host but parlayed her experience into a career as a YouTube star, blogger, influencer, and now skincare brand co-founder. "My mentality is someone out there is doing the thing you want to do. Why ...

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Jen Gotch: ban.do Founder and Chief Creative Officer
If you asked Jen Gotch in her 20s what her career might be like today, she'd have had absolutely no idea. "I'm a late bloomer," she tells Hillary Kerr on episode 17 of Second Life. The businesswoman and founder of the stylish gifts and accessories brand Ban.do spent college studying literature and philosophy with the goal of becoming a lawyer, only to realize that wasn't the path for her. Little did she know it would be a career in food styling that would ignite her creativity and lead to the beginning of h...

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Cassandra Grey: Violet Grey Founder
From an early age, Cassandra Grey understood that you have to work for the things you need in life. It's part of what motivated her to not only work at a children's store in high school but eventually go on to manage said store and become a buyer. It's also part of what drove her to create her own, nontraditional PR business in both San Francisco and New York City and what, ultimately, led her to draft the business plan for what's now a multiplatform beauty empire by the name of Violet Grey. "I'm still on t...

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Anna Brockway: Chairish Co-Founder and Chief Marketing Officer
The fast-paced world of advertising couldn't seem more opposite to vintage furniture shopping. However, after pressing pause on a career in marketing to raise her quickly growing family, Anna Brockway found herself using her advertising know-how to start her own website for selling vintage furniture. Brockway explains how she turned a little website called Chairish into the curated online marketplace for vintage home goods that it is today on episode 15 of Second Life....

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Mandy Moore: Actress and Singer-Songwriter
There are two ways to tell Mandy Moore’s career story. While we’re familiar with the highlight reel—Moore was a breakout singer at just 15 and is a Golden Globe nominee—the real story is far more complex. In episode 14 of Second Life, Moore opens up about self-doubt and setbacks and how they helped shape the woman and actor she is today....

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Sophia Rossi: HelloGiggles Co-Founder
Sophia Rossi's résumé is filled with accomplishments, but there's one achievement you won't find on there: graduate. The fiercely successful CEO of women's lifestyle website HelloGiggles skipped college to dive straight into full-time work after high school. In episode 13 of Second Life, Rossi talks about working as a producer on The Hills, learning from startup mistakes, and what it takes to be a great manager....

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Tracy Sun: Poshmark Co-Founder
Tracy Sun may be at the helm of the impressive fashion-tech startup Poshmark, but she doesn't consider herself a "fashion person." She studied biology and psychology in college with the intention of pursuing a career in neuroscience. Little did she know that she would trade medical school for business school and leave behind New York City for the tech mecca that is Silicon Valley. Sun explains how she made the transition from science to startup in episode 12 of Second Life....

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Jessica Alba: Actress and Founder of The Honest Company
Having a successful career might seem like the goal for many actors, but for Jessica Alba, it was a foundation to try something entirely new: building a business. The founder of The Honest Company shares the most powerful lessons she’s learned along the way, including letting go of ego, recruiting the right people, and the most important quality you can possess....

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Raina Penchansky: Digital Brand Architects Co-Founder and CEO
Few people would consider dropping out of college at age 19 to be a pivotal first step toward an impressive career, but that's exactly what Raina Penchansky did. Now co-founder and CEO of digital talent management company Digital Brand Architects (BDA), Penchansky left college during her sophomore year and began building a wildly impressive career in public relations. She explains how her natural instincts for hustling and winging it catapulted her PR career and gave her the courage to launch her own startu...

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Kelly LeVeque: Holistic Nutritionist and Celebrity Health Coach
Making the decision to change careers isn't always clear-cut, but holistic nutritionist Kelly LeVeque can pinpoint the moment she realized she was on the wrong path. In episode nine, LeVeque talks about her leap from pharmaceutical sales to nutrition as well as the advice to heed if you’re thinking of starting a business....

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Natasha Case: Coolhaus Co-Founder and CEO
Architecture and ice cream may sound like an unlikely combination, but bringing these two concepts together created a recipe for success for Natasha Case, co-founder of the original hipster ice cream truck, Coolhaus. After landing what many would consider a dream job as a Disney Imagineer straight out of graduate school, Case couldn’t shake the idea that she could use architecture for something bigger. For her, that meant blending her love for architecture with food, she explains in episode eight of Second ...

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Emily Current and Meritt Elliott: Hollywood Power Stylists and Designers Behind The Great
Emily Current and Meritt Elliot have achieved something that most friends only ever dream about. What started as a college friendship blossomed into a wildly successful business partnership built on mutual respect and admiration. After going their separate ways following graduation, Emily and Meritt took a leap of faith, parting from their lives as freelance stylists and writers to join forces and create what would become multiple successful fashion brands together....

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Mandana Dayani: Everything But the House Chief Brand Officer
From an outsider's point of view, Mandana Dayani was on a clear path to success: After graduating from USC Gould School of Law, she had an offer lined up at a top firm. But something wasn't right. In episode six of Second Life, the chief brand officer of Everything But the House and former vice president of Rachel Zoe Inc. explains why changing careers was the best decision she ever made....

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Kelly Oxford: New York Times Best-Selling Author
It's hard to sum up Kelly Oxford's career without resorting to a list. She's a New York Times best-selling author, screenwriter, sexual assault activist, social media sensation, and mom of three. Oxford wasn't always career-focused, though. In episode five of our podcast, Second Life, she explains what it was like to go from stay-at-home mom to social media star and breadwinner in a matter of tweets....

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Michelle Lee: Allure Editor in Chief
In the publishing industry, few challenges are as daunting as reinventing a beloved classic, but that's exactly what Allure Editor in Chief Michelle Lee was asked to do. In episode four of Second Life, Lee explains how she rose to the challenge and chose to rethink the traditional standards of beauty and publishing....

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Candace Nelson: Sprinkles Cupcakes Founder
Few people can be credited with starting a national food craze like Candace Nelson did. The pastry chef and entrepreneur sparked America's cupcake obsession when she opened Sprinkles Cupcakes in 2005, the first of its kind in the world. In the third episode of our podcast, Second Life, Nelson explains why she pivoted from a banker to baker and how she harnessed the power of saying “no."...

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Jenna Bans: Hollywood Showrunner and Creator of NBC's Good Girls
Jenna Bans's résumé is scarily similar to the list of TV shows we love to binge. As a producer and writer on Grey's Anatomy, co–executive producer on Scandal, and creator of NBC's new crime drama, Good Girls, she's the creative force behind some of the most popular shows of this generation. In episode two of Second Life, Bans opens up about ditching law school to pursue screenwriting, working with Shonda Rhimes, and learning to lead fearlessly....

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Jen Atkin: "The World's Most Influential Hair Stylist"
In our very first episode, host Hillary Kerr sits down with the one and only Jen Atkin, celebrity stylist and founder of cult haircare line Ouai. Dubbed the "most influential hairstylist in the world" by The New York Times, Atkin counts Bella Hadid, Chrissy Teigen, and Kendall Jenner as clients. Here, she gets candid about the power of social media, reflects on her journey from salon apprentice to CEO of a thriving business, and explains why mental toughness is the most underrated quality....

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Preview of Second Life, Our New Show
Join our host, Who What Wear and MyDomaine co-founder Hillary Kerr, as she chronicles the career changes that can come at any age in our new podcast, Second Life....

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