Words Matter

Words Matter Podcast

American politics is undergoing seismic changes that will alter the course of history. As hosts of Words Matter, Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart believe that facts, evidence, truth and objective reality are necessary and vital in public discourse. Katie and Joe have broad experience in government, politics and journalism -- this gives them a unique ability to explain recent events and place them in historic context. Together, with fellow journalists, elected officials, policy-makers and thought-leaders, they will analyze the week's news and get at the real truth behind all the distracting headlines. New episodes released Mondays. Produced and recorded out of The Hangar Studios, NYC.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/words-matter1. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

October Surprises - What's Next?
Mary Ellen Pethel and Jennifer Duck join Katie to talk about the debates, President Trump's COVID-19 diagnosis and the history of women as candidates and voters.ABOUT THE GUESTSMary Ellen Pethel is an author, historian, digital humanist, and academic entrepreneur who serves as an Assistant Professor at Belmont University. Dr. Pethel is widely published. Her latest book is Athens of the New South…And she is currently working on a manuscript celebrating the 50th anniversary of Title Nine. She teaches courses ...

Deep State Radio: Our Unfolding Democratic Emergency: The Red Lights are Already Flashing
The Constitutional rot of the past four years has set the stage for the corruption of our institutions and, equally importantly, for growing delegitimization of our government. This plays into the hands of a president who is ever more desperate to cling to power lest he lose his fortune and his freedom. This in turn has experts who are studying the preparations for the November 3 election to express deep concern that we may be heading into a period of profound crisis for our system, one that, should Trump p...

Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, & the Fracturing of America
It is impossible to understand Donald Trump without understanding America's relationship with television. James Poniewozik is the chief television critic for The New York Times. He often focuses on the intersection between television, politics and culture. He is the author of the new book -- Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Deep State Radio: Have We Already Seen the October Surprise?
Is a resurgent COVID the October Surprise? Is it the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Will it be the nomination and approval of a replacement for her prior to the election? Will it be the announcement of a vaccine? Or is it tied to the president's reluctance to guarantee a peaceful hand-over of power if he loses. We discuss these options and others with Mimi Rocah, candidate for Westchester, NY, District Attorney, Katie Barlow, attorney and journalist, and Dr. Kavita Patel, practicing physician and for...

The Ginsburg Tapes - In Memory of Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Last week, America lost an iconic jurist and a life long advocate for equal rights. In memory of the Honorable Ruth Bader Ginsburg, we replay Katie's interview with Lauren Moxley, the host of The Ginsburg Tapes Podcast -- which chronicles Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s oral arguments before the then all-male United States Supreme Court from 1972 to 1978 —before she became #Notorious RBG.The Ginsburg Tapes allows the listener to be a fly on the wall for some of the most important cases in American jurisprudence as f...

"HOAX" with Brian Stelter
Brian Stelter, host of CNN's Reliable Sources, joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about his new book HOAX - Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. Brian talks about the battle between Fox News journalists and the network’s primetime opinion hosts - Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, and Sean Hannity. Brian credits former Fox anchor Gretchen Carlson as being the catalyst behind the international #MeToo movement. Brian also explains how American lives were lost during the Coronav...


"If you don't know, now you know - with Congressman Hakeem Jeffries
Congressman Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about the 2020 elections, systemic racism and the Trump Administration’s response to the Coronavirus pandemic. Congressman Jeffries recalls his role in the Impeachment Trial of President Trump, including when he became the first person in history to quote Biggie Smalls on the floor of the United States Senate. He also explains why the future of American democracy may well hinge on the results of the November elections.Recorded Se...

The Barlow Group: "Rainbows & Rainclouds" with Jen Psaki and Paul Begala
White House and campaign veterans Jen Psaki and Paul Begala join Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart for a discussion about the “Rainbows & Rainclouds” of the 2020 presidential campaign. In a McLaughlin Group tribute, Joe joins the panel, and Katie leads the group as they analyze the political landscape heading into the home stretch of the race for the White House. Jen explains the challenges facing Team Biden as they work to keep the Democrats united. Paul says the best strategy for defeating Trump is to ignore ...

Trump's "Magic Dust" with Michael Steele
Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about the virtual Republican National Convention, the future of his party, and Donald Trump’s “magic dust” with voters that the press and the political class often miss. Steele explains why he joined the Republican Party in the 1970s. He discusses where the party was heading then, and how it continued to grow until 2012. And Steele details how under Donald Trump, the GOP has been transformed into haven for racists, grifters, and ...


Governor Terry McAuliffe
Former Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about Vice Presidential Nominee Kamala Harris, the virtual Democratic National Convention and the 3rd Anniversary of Charlottesville. Governor McAuliffe says Senator Harris needs to directly address all of the issues where progressives in the Democratic Party may have concerns about her record. McAuliffe explains how political conventions have been transformed by the Coronavirus pandemic and how they may never again return ...

"The Austin Powers Candidate" with Doug Sosnik
Former White House Political Director Doug Sosnik joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart for an update on the 2020 elections. Sosnik explains how 2016 and 2020 are vastly different for President Trump, who he calls the “Austin Powers” candidate. Sosnik breaks down how the political landscape has been transformed in the midst of the Coronavirus pandemic and how a vast majority of the electorate thinks the country is on the “wrong track”. Sosnik also discusses Joe Biden’s strategy, the impact of early voting on ...

An Interview with Rod Rosenstein
Our guest today served as the 37th Deputy Attorney General of the United States from April 2017 until May 2019. Prior to his appointment, he served as a United States Attorney for the District of Maryland. At the time of his confirmation as Deputy Attorney General on April 25, 2017, he was the nation's longest-serving U.S. Attorney. The Senate approved his nomination by a vote of 94-6.We are so excited to announce that Words Matter Media is partnering with CAFE Studios to bring you a new season of the Words...


Katie and Joe Return
We're back! This week Katie and Joe officially return with a thank you and a message for our listeners. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Presidential Words Matter: FDR at the 1936 Democratic Convention
Since we currently have a president who doesn't seem to know or even understand the importance of words, especially when they are spoken by the president of the United States, we thought it might be helpful in a time of national crisis to remember that we have had presidents of both parties who did understand this.President Franklin D. Roosevelt, led our country through difficult times with the power and eloquence of his words.In 1936 during the Great Depression and as the clouds of war gathered over Europe...

Presidential Words Matter: Ronald Reagan on the Challenger Disaster
The Space shuttle Challenger’s launch had already been delayed twice when it finally took off on January 28th 1986. This particular launch was widely publicized because for the first time a civilian—a teacher named Christa McAuliffe—was traveling into space. The plan was to have McAuliffe communicate to students from space. According to the New York Times, nearly half of America’s school children aged nine to thirteen watched the event live in their classrooms. But tragically - After a short seventy-three s...


America's Mission Statement - Read by John F. Kennedy
On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statement. And like all mission statements, the words represented not what we were, but what we aspired to be. In fact, the author himself was a gifted writer, but a deeply flawed person who – like his country -- did not embody the ideas and ideal of that document.For more than two hundred and forty years, the story of Ameri...

Preview - GURU: The Dark Side of Enlightenment
Wondery has new tru-crime mini series that we think you’ll really enjoy.In the Mid 2000s James Arthur Ray was a charismatic self-help guru who promised his followers a path to wealth and happiness. But not all who followed him finished their journey.This is the story told in a new true crime mini-series from Wondery called “GURU: The Dark Side of Enlightenment”.James Arthur Ray wasn’t really well known until he was in a movie called “The Secret”, and then was a guest on Oprah’s TV show a few times. Soon aft...

Presidential Words Matter: Bill Clinton "Time for Healing" - Oklahoma City, 1995
This week on Presidential Words Matter - we highlight Bill Clinton’s remarks in the aftermath of the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing.On April 19, 1995 a domestic terrorist used a truck bomb to destroy the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Office Building[2] in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Perpetrated by American terrorists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, the bombing killed at least 168 people, including 19 children,[3] - and injured more than 680 others. The blast destroyed more than one third of the building, which had t...


Presidential Words Matter: Barack Obama's Eulogy for the Honorable Reverend Clementa Pinckney
On June 26th 2015 President Barack Obama delivered the eulogy at the funeral of the Reverend Clementa C. Pinckney, the senior pastor of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston and a South Carolina State Senator.Reverend Pinckney and 8 other Black church members had been murdered a week earlier during Bible Study in a racially motivated mass shooting perpetrated by a white supremacist. The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church is one of the oldest Black churches in the United States...

Presidential Words Matter: LBJ 1965 Howard University Commencement Address
On June 4, 1965, President Johnson delivered the commencement address at Howard University, the nation’s most prominent historically black university.‪In his address, Johnson explained why “opportunity” was not enough to ensure the civil rights of disadvantaged Americans.‪The ‘To Fulfill These Rights’ speech as it is widely known was the intellectual framework for affirmative action. ‪President Johnson spoke of racial injustice and economic disparities between black and white Americans. ‪For many in the aud...

ENCORE: President John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights
This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has been president for nearly two and a half years.While Kennedy had long privately expressed his deep moral objections to the treatment of black people in American society and indicated support for New federal legislation. His public comments ranged from cautious moderate criticism to a 1950s version of “both sides-ism” but were m...


Letter from a Birmingham Jail: Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
This week we highlight one of the most significant and consequential calls for racial equality and social justice in American History - “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”On Good Friday, April 12, 1963 - the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr and fellow civil rights leaders were arrested in Birmingham, Alabama as they lead a now famous Campaign of non-violent direct action to protest racial segregation and oppression in that Southern City.In the early 1960s, Birmingham was one of the most racially segregated ci...

Presidential Words Matter: George W. Bush at the National Cathedral
This week we focus on leadership and comfort in a time of national tragedy, crisis and mourning.On September 14th 2001 - President George W. Bush spoke at the National Cathedral in Washington at a National Day of Prayer and Remembrance Service.Just 72 hours earlier - more than 3,000 Americans had been killed during the most lethal terrorist attack in US history. The country was still shut down - commercial air travel was grounded. The dead were still being counted. But the president talked of unity. The tra...

Presidential Words Matter: John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights
This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has been president for nearly two and a half years.While Kennedy had long privately expressed his deep moral objections to the treatment of black people in American society and indicated support for New federal legislation. His public comments ranged from cautious moderate criticism to a 1950s version of “both sides-ism” but were m...


Preview: The Daily Smile
Everyone needs a reminder about just how good people can be. On Wondery’s new series The Daily Smile, host Nikki Boyer brings you stories that will make you feel good each weekday morning. With interviews, inspiring clips, and chats with special guests and passionate friends, The Daily Smile takes you on a journey into goodness, gives you all the feels, and will leave you with a smile on your face. Listen to the full episode: wondery.fm/dailysmilewords See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out informati...

Presidential Words Matter: Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address
In January of 1989 after 8 years in office, President Ronald Reagan delivered his 34th and final Oval Office address.His tenure was not without controversy - and there is much about Reagan and his policies for historians and commentators to rightly criticize.But more than anything else Ronald Reagan understood the power and importance of words.For his final presidential address Reagan wanted to end on a note of what had become his trademark - optimism.All of his political life The Gipper had talked about Am...

ENCORE: The 2020 Political Landscape with Doug Sosnik
Katie and Joe sit down with best-selling author and political analyst Doug Sosnik. He has advised presidents, senators, governors, Fortune 100 corporations and universities for 35 years.Doug also served as a senior advisor to President Clinton for six years as Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy, White House Political Director and Deputy Legislative Director.He is the co-author of New York Times bestseller Applebee’s America: How Successful Political, Business and Religious Leaders Connect with the New A...


SPECIAL: A Tribute to Tim Russert
Today, on what would have been his 70th birthday, we pay tribute to the late, great Tim Russert - Moderator of Meet the Press and NBC News Washington Bureau Chief.Unlike many in the public eye - Tim was the same guy off camera as he was on. He was tough, but fair, - always quick with a joke and above all he was forever humbled by his success and the opportunities afforded the son of a sanitation worker from South Buffalo.“What a country?” Tim would often marvel - he lived by the words of the pious Saint Luk...

Presidential Words Matter: FDR 1936 Democratic Convention
This week, we begin a new series, Presidential Words Matter. Since we currently have a president who doesn't seem to know or even understand the importance of words, especially when they are spoken by the president of the United States, we thought it might be helpful in a time of national crisis to remember that we have had presidents of both parties who did understand this.These presidents have led our country through difficult times with the power and eloquence of their words.So this week, we wanted to hi...

ENCORE: Cindi Leive - Former Editor in Chief, Glamour
Cindi Leive is the former editor-in-chief of both Glamour and Self magazines. She was the driving force behind barrier- breaking initiatives like “Glamour Women of the Year” and “The Girl Project” which supports girls’ education.Cindi is the author and editor of numerous books including the 2018 New York Times bestseller Together We Rise, about the organizing of the Women's March.She has interviewed heads of state, Hollywood and fashion’s biggest personalities, and iconic leaders from all walks of life. Her...


American Scandal Preview
This week, we want you to join one of our favorite hosts, Lindsey Graham of -- American Scandal and American History Tellers -- as he previews his new six-part series, "The Harry Krishna Murders," as he explores an eastern religion with pure intentions that in the hands of its Western followers became a criminal enterprise of drug running abuse and murder. wondery.fm/wordsmatterASSubscribe to American Scandal wondery.fm/wordsmatterAS and other great podcasts from Wondery on Apple podcasts, Spotify or wherev...

ENCORE: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff
Back in December Katie and Joe sit down with the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Congressman Adam Schiff is in his 10 term representing California’s 28th Congressional District.Before that he was a Member of the California State Senate where he served as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Congressman Schiff began his career as an Assistant US Attorney in the Central District of California.Katie and Joe talk to him about the Impeachment of President Trump, what a Se...

ENCORE: The Contenders with Walter Mondale
The Contenders is a special podcast series by Joe Lockhart. Given the importance of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, we thought it important and informative to hear from those people who've actually run for president. What goes into the decision? How do you possibly get to the place of thinking you can take on the toughest job in the world? What were your biggest mistakes as a candidate? What lessons did you learn and what advice do you have for those running against Donald Trump?Joe rec...


How To Save Your Soul In America - with R. Eric Thomas
Our guest today is a senior staff writer at ELLE.com where he has written the daily pop culture and politics humor column since 2016.His opinion columns have also been published by The New York Times, among many others.As a playwright, R. Eric Thomas won the Barrymore Award and the Dramatists Guild Lanford Wilson Award and was a finalist for the Steinberg/American Theater Critics Association New Play Award.He is also the long-running host of The Moth Story Slams in Washington, D.C., and Philadelphia.R. Eric...

How To Save Your Soul In America - with R. Eric Thomas
Our guest today is a senior staff writer at ELLE.com where he has written the daily pop culture and politics humor column since 2016.His opinion columns have also been published by The New York Times, among many others.As a playwright, R. Eric Thomas won the Barrymore Award and the Dramatists Guild Lanford Wilson Award and was a finalist for the Steinberg/American Theater Critics Association New Play Award.He is also the long-running host of The Moth Story Slams in Washington, D.C., and Philadelphia.R. Eric...

Hill Women - with Cassie Chambers
Our guest this week is a writer, lawyer, speaker and an advocate. Cassie Chambers grew up in Eastern Kentucky, graduated from Yale College, the Yale School of Public Health, the London School of Economics, and Harvard Law School, where she was president of the Harvard Legal Aid Bureau, a student-run law firm that represents low-income clients.Cassie received a Skadden Fellowship to return to Kentucky to do legal work with domestic violence survivors in rural communities.In 2018, Cassie helped pass Jeanette’...


The Contenders: Michael Dukakis
In the latest of Joe's special series - The Contenders -- the sixty fifth governor of Massachusetts from 1975 to 1979. Four years later, Michael Dukakis became the sixty seventh governor from 1983 to 1991 -- making him the longest serving chief executive in Massachusetts history. Before that, he was a member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives from 1963 to 1971. In 1988, he ran for and won the Democratic nomination for president, facing the vice president, George H.W. Bush in the general election....

The Contenders: Michael Dukakis
In the latest of Joe's special series - The Contenders -- the sixty fifth governor of Massachusetts from 1975 to 1979. Four years later, Michael Dukakis became the sixty seventh governor from 1983 to 1991 -- making him the longest serving chief executive in Massachusetts history. Before that, he was a member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives from 1963 to 1971. In 1988, he ran for and won the Democratic nomination for president, facing the vice president, George H.W. Bush in the general election....

The Contenders: Howard Dean
In the latest of Joe's special series - The Contenders -- he interviews author, medical doctor, and from 1991 to 2003 the 79th governor of Vermont. In 2004, Howard Dean ran for the Democratic nomination for president. While he didn’t win the nomination, he started a movement and later served as the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee from 2005 to 2009. His implementation of the fifty-state strategy as head of the DNC is credited with the Democratic victories in the 2006 and 2008 elections -- with ...


Stacey Abrams
Katie and Joe are honored to be joined this week by New York Times bestselling author, serial entrepreneur, nonprofit CEO and political leader Stacey Abrams. In 2018, after serving for eleven years in the Georgia House of Representatives, seven as Democratic Leader, Stacey Abrams became the Democratic nominee for Governor of Georgia, winning more votes than any other Democrat in the state’s history.Leader Abrams was the first black woman to become the gubernatorial nominee for a major party in the United St...

The Presidency & Pandemics
Since World War 2, US presidents have had to deal with pandemics as part of their job – the Eisenhower Administration fast-tracked the polio vaccine. Gerald Ford dealt with Swine Flu, Ronald Reagan’s legacy is marred by his Administration’s inaction on AIDS in the 1980s and of course, President Obama confronted the global threat of Ebola.And now we have the Coronavirus – this week Katie and Joe, talk about the Presidency and pandemics. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

The 2020 Political Landscape with Doug Sosnik
This week Katie and Joe sit down with best-selling author and political analyst Doug Sosnik. He has advised presidents, senators, governors, Fortune 100 corporations and universities for 35 years.Doug also served as a senior advisor to President Clinton for six years as Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy, White House Political Director and Deputy Legislative Director.He is the co-author of New York Times bestseller Applebee’s America: How Successful Political, Business and Religious Leaders Connect with...


New Hampshire and Trouble at Justice with Dana Milbank
This week Katie and Joe sit down with award winning journalist, best-selling author and nationally syndicated columnist for the Washington Post, Dana Milbank.Dana is the author three books on politics and has covered politics for the Post since the year 2000. Before that Dana was a senior editor at the New Republic, and before that a reporter for the Wall Street Journal.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

New Hampshire and Trouble at Justice with Dana Milbank
This week Katie and Joe sit down with award winning journalist, best-selling author and nationally syndicated columnist for the Washington Post, Dana Milbank.Dana is the author three books on politics and has covered politics for the Post since the year 2000. Before that Dana was a senior editor at the New Republic, and before that a reporter for the Wall Street Journal....

The Primaries Begin with Jen Psaki
Impeachment is over and the Democratic primaries begin. This week Katie and Joe sit down with campaign veteran and former White House Communications Director under President Obama, Jen Psaki. They discuss the primaries with Jen who has worked on presidential, senate and gubernatorial campaigns in among other places – Iowa. She is also a CNN political analyst. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


The Impeachment Non-Trial with Elie Honig
The US Senate refuses to hear witnesses in the Impeachment Trial of Donald J. Trump. Joe and guest Elie Honig breakdown what happened and what may happen next. Elie Honig is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals.As a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, Elie Honig directed major criminal cases against street gangs drug trafficking organizations illegal firearms traffickers cor...

Words Matter Library: WeCrashed Preview
The Rise and Fall of WeWork is a stunning story of hope and hubris. WeWork was the poster child for a new economy. Its founders wanted to revolutionize everything about the way people lived their lives. Its charismatic founder Adam Neumann had an intoxicating vision for the company — but did it ever match the reality? Hosted by David Brown of Wondery’s hit podcast Business Wars, WeCrashed is a six-part series about the rise and fall of WeWork. It’s a story of hope and hubris, and pulls back the curtain on t...

Impeachment Trial Continues
For only the 3rd time in American history, the President of the United States stands trial in the United States Senate for "high crimes and misdemeanors. Katie and Joe breakdown what's happened so far and what may happen next in the Impeachment Trial of President Donald Trump. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: Daniel Patrick Moynihan, American Visionary
The Almanac of American Politics described Daniel Patrick Moynihan as “The nation’s best thinker among politicians since Lincoln and its best politician among thinkers since Jefferson.” Before his election to the US Senate in 1976, Moynihan served in the administrations of Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford. He was ambassador to India, and U.S. representative to the United Nations, and was four times elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.This week we are honored to add Daniel Patrick Moynihan: A...

Senate Impeachment Trial Begins with Nina Totenberg
For only the 3rd time in American History, the Impeachment Trial of a President of the United States began last week in the United States Senate.Legendary NPR Correspondent Nina Totenberg covered the 1999 Senate Impeachment Trial of Bill Clinton. And this week, Nina joins Katie to talk about what will be the same and what will be different in the Senate Impeachment Trial of Donald Trump. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

A World in Disarray with Richard Haass
Richard Haass is President of the Council on Foreign Relations. He is a veteran diplomat and the author or editor of more than a dozen books including the forthcoming “The World: A Brief Introduction” See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: Era of Ignition by Amber Tamblyn
This week we put Era of Ignition: Coming of Age in a Time of Rage and Revolution by Amber Tamblyn into the Words Matter Library. Amber is an actor, filmmaker, writer, activist and poet. Her acting credits include Joan of Arcadia, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, House and will be seen in Y: The Last Man,. Her written work has been featured in The Cut and the New York [email protected] See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Welcome to 2020!
Happy New Year - Welcome to 2020.This year will be one of the most - if THE most consequential in American political history.For the first time ever, a President of the United States runs for re-election after being impeached by the House of Representatives and facing a trial in the US Senate.Control of both Houses of Congress, the White House and the future of the Supreme Court all hang in the balance.And in the next few months, Democrats will choose their nominee to take on President Trump in November. Bu...

Best of Words Matter Library: The Ginsburg Files
In this Best of edition of the Words Matter Library, Katie sits down with Lauren Moxley, the host of The Ginsburg Tapes Podcast -- which chronicles Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s oral arguments before the then all-male United States Supreme Court from 1972 to 1978 —before she became #Notorious RBG.The Ginsburg Tapes allows the listener to be a fly on the wall for some of the most important cases in American jurisprudence as future Justice Ginsburg challenged laws treating men and women differently. In between the a...


The Professionals Pilot
This week Katie and Joe preview Joe's new series "The Professionals" where we give you the inside story of what really drives a presidential campaign. We'll break down what makes a campaign successful and why some candidates come up short. Our experts meet two important criteria - they're not actively working on a campaign now (so they can be unbiased) AND they've been involved at a senior level for multiple presidential campaigns.In the pilot episode Jen Psaki, Paul Begala and Ron Klain take you behind the...

Words Matter Library: Profiles in Courage by John F. Kennedy
As the United States Senate prepares for the Impeachment Trial of President Donald J. Trump, we once again put then-Senator John F. Kennedy's Pulitzer Prize winning book into the Words Matter Library. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and the late John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses....

The Pelosi Gambit
Last week the 45th President of the United States became only the 3rd Chief Executive in American History to be impeached by the House of Representatives.This week Katie and Joe talk about what it means for President Trump, his legacy AND how long Speaker Pelosi can withhold sending the Articles of Impeachment to the US Senate. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


SPECIAL Rick Wilson
Rick Wilson is a political strategist, media consultant and a best-selling author based in Florida who has produced political commercials for governors, U.S. Senate candidates and super PACs.Rick has written for the Daily Beast, Politico, the New York Daily News, Medium and he is the author of the New York Times Best Seller Everything Trump Touches Dies.. His next book, Running Against the Devil: A Plot to Save America from Trump—and Democrats from Themselves will be published on January 14, 2020.His is als...

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff
This week Katie and Joe sit down with the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Congressman Adam Schiff is in his 10 term representing California’s 28th Congressional District.Before that he was a Member of the California State Senate where he served as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Congressman Schiff began his career as an Assistant US Attorney in the Central District of California.Katie and Joe talk to him about the Impeachment of President Trump, what a Senate tr...

Words Matter Library: If you cannot believe the President, who can you believe?
More than 20 years ago - in his closing argument in the Senate Impeachment Trial of President Bill Clinton, Republican House Manager Congressman Henry Hyde held up a letter from 8 year old William Preston Summers, a 3rd grader from Chase Elementary School in Chicago.It was perhaps only compelling moment in the entire trial. This week, we put Congressman Henry Hyde reading third grader William Preston Summers' letter into the Words Matter Library.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Supreme Ambition with Ruth Marcus
Katie and Joe sit down with Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post. Ruth is a journalist, political commentator and author who has written for the Post since her final year at Harvard Law School. Among other beats, She has covered campaign finance, the Justice Department, the Supreme Court and the White House. And for 15 years she has served on the Post’s Editorial Board.Her new book Supreme Ambition: Brett Kavanaugh and the Conservative Takeover, debuted last week. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-ou...

Words Matter Library: Election Ride Home with Chris Higgins
This week we put Election Ride Home hosted by Chris Higgins into the Words Matter Library. Chris is a veteran journalist, a writer and a documentarianHis previous credits include The Atlantic, This American Life and Mental Floss.Election Ride Home gives listeners a 15-20 minute update on all the day’s 2020 election news. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Moving Forward with Karine Jean-Pierre
Katie and Joe sit down with political activist, organizer, analyst and author Karine Jean-Pierre. Her experience ranges from presidential campaigns to local politics to grassroots activism.Karine is the Chief Public Affairs Officer for Moveon.org and a lecturer in international and public affairs at Columbia University. Karine is also a political analyst for NBC News and MSNBC and the author of the new book – Moving Forward: A Story of Hope, Hard Work and the Promise of America. See acast.com/privacy for pr...


Moving Forward with Karine Jean-Pierre
Katie and Joe sit down with political activist, organizer, analyst and author Karine Jean-Pierre. Her experience ranges from presidential campaigns to local politics to grassroots activism.Karine is the Chief Public Affairs Officer for Moveon.org and a lecturer in international and public affairs at Columbia University. Karine is also a political analyst for NBC News and MSNBC and the author of the new book – Moving Forward: A Story of Hope, Hard Work and the Promise of America....

Words Matter Library: Today Explained
This week we put Today Explained into the Words Matter Library. Sean Rameswaram is a journalist, a podcaster, a writer, producer and radio host. His previous experience includes time as a correspondent for Radiolab. He has also created and hosted radio shows for the CBC, and WNYC. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Impeachment Continues with Elie Honig
Last week the House Intelligence Committee wrapped two weeks of public impeachment hearings. We heard from 12 witnesses in more than 40 hours of televised testimony.Katie and Joe talk to former federal prosecutor Elie Honig about what happened, what it means and what happens next.Elie is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals.As a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, He directed...


Impeachment Continues with Elie Honig
Last week the House Intelligence Committee wrapped two weeks of public impeachment hearings. We heard from 12 witnesses in more than 40 hours of televised testimony.Katie and Joe talk to former federal prosecutor Elie Honig about what happened, what it means and what happens next.Elie is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals.As a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, He directed...

Words Matter Library: China's Vision of Victory with Dr. Jonathan Ward
This week we add China’s Vision of Victory by Dr. Jonathan Ward to the Words Matter Library. Jonathan Ward is an author, a scholar and a strategic consultant. He speaks 5 languages, is founder of the Atlas Organization a strategic consultancy, and holds a Ph.D. from Oxford in China–India relations. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: China's Vision of Victory with Dr. Jonathan Ward
This week we add China’s Vision of Victory by Dr. Jonathan Ward to the Words Matter Library. Jonathan Ward is an author, a scholar and a strategic consultant. He speaks 5 languages, is founder of the Atlas Organization a strategic consultancy, and holds a Ph.D. from Oxford in China–India relations....


The History of Impeachment with Professor Douglas Brinkley
Last week, public impeachment hearings of President Trump began in the House Intelligence Committee – and pretty much everyone who does not appear on Fox News or the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show proclaimed the proceedings to be “historic”This week Katie and Joe discuss the history of impeachment with presidential historian Professor Douglas Brinkley.Professor Brinkley is is a celebrated historian and the award-winning author, co-author or editor of more than 30 books, most of these works focus on American presi...

The History of Impeachment with Professor Douglas Brinkley
Last week, public impeachment hearings of President Trump began in the House Intelligence Committee – and pretty much everyone who does not appear on Fox News or the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show proclaimed the proceedings to be “historic”This week Katie and Joe discuss the history of impeachment with presidential historian Professor Douglas Brinkley.Professor Brinkley is is a celebrated historian and the award-winning author, co-author or editor of more than 30 books, most of these works focus on American presi...

Words Matter Library: American History Tellers with Lindsay Graham
This week we add American History Tellers to the Words Matter Library. The Cold War, Prohibition, the Gold Rush, the Space Race. Every part of your life -the words you speak, the ideas you share- can be traced to our history, but how well do you really know the stories that made America? American History Tellers will take you to the events, the times and the people that shaped our nation. And they'll show you how our history affected them, their families and affects you today. Hosted by Lindsay Graham (not ...


Fox News & Impeachment with Gabe Sherman
Gabe Sherman sits down with Katie and Joe to talk about Fox News and the Impeachment of Donald Trump. Gabe is an award-winning journalist, best-selling author and a special correspondent for Vanity Fair. Earlier this year his book The Loudest Voice in the Room: How the Brilliant, Bombastic Roger Ailes Built Fox News – and Divided a Country, was turned into the television series Loudest Voice by ShowTime starring Russell Crowe as Roger Ailes.Gabe's reporting on Fox News eventually lead to the termination of ...

Words Matter Library: Verify by Joelle Charbonneau
This week we put Verify by bestselling author Joelle Charbonneau into the Words Matter Library. This eerily timely, high-stakes page-turner is destined to start important conversations at this particular moment in our history.Meri Beckley lives in a world without lies. When she looks at the peaceful Chicago streets, she feels pride in the era of unprecedented hope and prosperity over which the governor presides.But when Meri’s mother is killed, Meri suddenly has questions that no one else seems to be asking...

SPECIAL Impeachment 2.0 Update
Last week was a significant one for the House Impeachment Inquiry. On Thursday the House of Representatives voted 232-196 to approve rules and move forward with the impeachment inquiry into President Trump’s conduct.The vote was mostly along party lines with all the Republicans voting against joined by two Democrats from districts Trump won in 2016.Katie and Joe breakdown what happened and why it matters in this SPECIAL Impeachment 2.0 Update See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America
It is impossible to understand Donald Trump without understanding America's relationship with television. James Poniewozik is the chief television critic for The New York Times. He often focuses on the intersection between television, politics and culture. He is the author of the new book -- Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: Make America Radical Again
This week we add Take Hold of Our History: Make America Radical Again  by Professor Harvey J. Kaye to the Words Matter Library.Harvey J. Kaye is the Ben and Joyce Rosenberg Professor of Democracy and Justice Studies and Director of the Center for History and Social Change at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.An award-winning author and writer, he has written 9 books – including:Thomas Paine and the Promise of America (2005)The Fight for the Four Freedoms: What Made FDR and the Greatest Generation Truly ...

LIVE from Politicon - Governor Bill Weld
A special LIVE edition from Politicon – the annual bipartisan “Unconventional Political Convention” held this year in Nashville, Tennessee.Katie and Joe welcome former Massachusetts Governor Bill Weld to Words Matter.Governor Weld began his career as staff member and attorney for the House Judiciary Committee during Watergate.He was later the US Attorney for the District of Massachusetts and Assistant Attorney General of the United States for the Criminal Division from 1986 to 1988 under President Ronald Re...


SPECIAL: Impeachment Update
It's been one month since Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the start of the House Impeachment Inquiry. A lot has happened -- but has anything change? Katie and Joe discuss whether President Trump is any close to impeachment today than he was 4 weeks ago on this special Words Matter Impeachment Update. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

The Trump Doctrine with Max Boot
Joe sits down with author, historian and foreign policy analyst Max Boot to talk about Syria, Ukraine and the Trump Doctrine.Max is the Jeane Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations a columnist for The Washington Post and a global affairs analyst for CNN. Max is also the author of six books including The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: Cokie Roberts Tribute
Last Month, we lost best-selling author, iconic reporter and journalistic pioneer Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Claiborne Roberts, "Cokie" to her family, friends, colleagues and the tens of millions of Americans who read her column or watched and listened to her every week on NPR and ABC News.Originally from New Orleans, Louisiana, she learned politics at an early age. Both her father and her mother served for decades in the United States Congress. An award winning political reporter and analyst, Cokie Rober...


Next Big Idea Preview
This week Katie and Joe preview a new podcast by Wondery - The Next Big Idea. Ideas are coming at you every day from all directions. Where do you even start? Hosted by Rufus Griscom, and featuring thought-leaders Malcolm Gladwell, Susan Cain, Adam Grant, and Daniel Pink, THE NEXT BIG IDEA brings you the most groundbreaking ideas that have the power to change the way you live, work, and think. Each episode dives deep into one big idea through immersive storytelling, narration and curator interviews with the ...

Impeachment & the Press with Margaret Sullivan
As the House moves forward with the impeachment inquiry of President Trump, how the press covers it could determine the outcome. This week, Katie and Joe sit down with Margaret Sullivan to talk about impeachment and the press.Margaret Sullivan is the media columnist for The Washington Post and before that Margaret served as the fifth public editor of The New York Times and was the first woman to hold that position. Margaret is a native of Lackawanna, New York and began her career as a summer intern at the B...


American Elections: Wicked Game Preview
This week we preview a great new podcast - American Elections: Wicked Game from Wondery.On Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020, the citizens of the United States will cast ballots to elect their president, and it feels like the country couldn’t be more divided.America will have to endure another 58 weeks of shouting, outrage, and the worst sort of political rancor. How has it come to this?It turns out, it’s almost always been this way. And the 58 weeks we have remaining is just enough time to review the entire hist...

High Crimes & Misdemeanors with Elie Honig
Elie Honig joins Joe this week to talk about the latest in the House Impeachment Inquiry against President Trump -- he explains what crimes may have been committed in the most recent Trump scandal.Elie is a former state and federal prosecutor with extensive experience leading and managing criminal trials and appeals.As a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, Elie directed major criminal cases against street gangs drug trafficking organizations illegal ...

Words Matter Library: The Whistleblower Complaint
A whistleblower complaint filed by an intelligence officer about President Trump’s interactions with the leader of Ukraine could change the course of presidential history.This week we put the audio version of this important document into the Words Matter Library. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: The Whistleblower Complaint
A whistleblower complaint filed by an intelligence officer about President Trump’s interactions with the leader of Ukraine could change the course of presidential history.This week we put the audio version of this important document into the Words Matter Library....

The First Steps of Impeachment with Carrie Cordero
The House takes the first steps toward impeachment -- Carrie Cordero joins Katie and Joe to explain how we got here and what may happen next.Carrie is the Robert M. Gates Senior Fellow and General Counsel at the Center for a New American Security. Carrie is also an adjunct professor of law at Georgetown University Law Center, a CNN legal analyst, and a contributing editor of Lawfare. Carrie has served in numerous senior positions at the Department of Justice and the Office of the Director of National Intell...

SPECIAL - Impeachment Begins
History is unfolding in real time.The President of the United States is accused of using the power of his office to extort a foreign government into finding dirt or manufacturing dirt on his leading political rival in the 2020 presidential election.This week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took a step she had been reluctant to take for months and announced that the House will begin formal impeachment proceedings into the conduct of the President of the United States.Katie and Joe will talk about what happened, ...


ICYMI: Barbara Jordan on Impeachment
On July 25th 1974 Congresswoman Barbara Jordan delivered a televised opening statement as the House Judiciary Committee began consideration of articles of impeachment against President Richard Nixon. It is regarded by historians as one of the greatest speeches in all of American history. Congresswoman Jordan offered a passionate and powerful defense of the United States Constitution. A document, she noted, did not include people like her when it was written and completed in 1787.Congresswoman Jordan also pr...

Politico's Anna Palmer & Jake Sherman
Our guests this week are senior Washington correspondents for POLITICO and co-authors of POLITICO’s Playbook, the most important indispensable morning newsletter covering Washington and politics.Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman are also the co-authors of New York Times and national best seller, The Hill to Die On: The Battle for Congress and the Future of Trump's America.In addition to Playbook, Anna is also editorial director of Women Rule, a POLITICO platform that is dedicated to expanding leadership opportun...

Words Matter Library: Eleanor Roosevelt at the United Nations
This week, the 74th session of the General Assembly of the United Nations began in New York.To mark the occasion, we wanted to pay tribute to one of the most important and meaningful accomplishments of that body – the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.Adopted at the 3rd UN General Assembly held in Paris –this document -- As Ken Burns notes in The Roosevelts --was history’s first attempt at laying out the principles under which all nations should behave towards their own citizens and as well as towards e...


The View From Capitol Hill
This week Katie and Joe take a look at what's happening on Capitol Hill with Julie Hirschfeld Davis the new congressional editor for the The New York Times. Julie has covered politics from Washington for two decades, writing on Congress, three presidential campaigns and three presidents. She is a CNN political analyst and next month Julie and Mike Shear have a new book out, Border Wars: Inside Trump’s Assault On Immigration, the inside story of how Trump and his team seized on immigration as a defining poli...

Words Matter Library: The Vagina Bible
She's is a medical doctor on a mission to create a better medical Internet. Dr. Jen Gunter has been called "Twitter's Resident Gynecologist" and "The Internet's OB/GYN". She's a fierce advocate for women's health, a writer for The New York Times, USA Today, and Self, and the host Jensplaining, Dr. Jen joins us to talk about her Best Selling new book, The Vagina Bible, and for straight talk on women's health. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson
This week Joe sits down with former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson about the Anniversary of 9/11, immigration, 2020 election security and more.Jeh Johnson was the 4th Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security from December 2013 until January of 2017. Before that he was an Assistant US Attorney in the Southern District of New York. From 1998 until 2001, he was General Counsel of the Air Force and from February 2009 until December 2012 he was General Counsel of the Department of Defense und...


Summer Wrap 2019
For those of you who took the summer off from 24/7 news, Katie and Joe will recap the highlights and the lowlights. From Donald Trump to the race for the Democratic nomination, to the battle for the US Senate, we'll catch you up on the latest. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

SPECIAL The Contenders with Walter Mondale
The Contenders is a special podcast series by Joe Lockhart. Given the importance of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, we thought it important and informative to hear from those people who've actually run for president. What goes into the decision? How do you possibly get to the place of thinking you can take on the toughest job in the world? What were your biggest mistakes as a candidate? What lessons did you learn and what advice do you have for those running against Donald Trump?Joe rec...

Words Matter Library: 56th Anniversary of the March on Washington
It was one of the defining moments of the civil rights movement and one of the most iconic speeches in American history.56 years ago this week The March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, or the March on Washington, was held in the Nation’s Capital on Wednesday, August 28, 1963. More than 250,000 people turned out to advocate for the civil and economic rights of black Americans. At was here, standing in front of the Lincoln Memorial, that the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his historic "I Ha...


ICYMI - How Russian Hackers & Trolls Helped Elect a President
In case you missed this important episode -- Katie and Joe sat down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President Professor Jamieson is the Elizabeth Ware Packard Professor of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, the Director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, and Program Director of the Annenberg Retreat at Sunnylands.Professor Jamieson details exactly how and why the Russians cyberwar ti...

Words Matter Library: Battle for the Marble Palace
Battle for the Marble Palace – Abe Fortas, Earl Warren, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon and the Forging of the Modern Supreme CourtAuthor Michael Bobelian is a contributor to Forbes where he writes on the Supreme Court, white collar crime and politics. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Presidential Historian Douglas Brinkley
Our guest this week is a celebrated historian and the award-winning author, co-author or editor of more than 30 books. Most of these works are focused on American presidents or people we know because of presidents.Douglas Brinkley is the Katherine Tsanoff Brown Chair in Humanities and Professor of History at Rice University, a CNN Presidential Historian, and a contributing editor at Vanity Fair.  Katie and Joe talk to Professor Brinkley about the power and consequences of a president's words. See acast.com/...


Final Word: Toni Morrison
Last week we lost one of the most influential and celebrated novelists in American literary history Toni Morrison. A novelist, essayist and Princeton Professor, Morrison wrote nine major novels -- all of which earned extensive critical acclaim. Among dozens of other awards and achievements, she won both a Pulitzer Prize and American Book Award in 1988 for her novel Beloved. And in 1993, Toni Morrison became the first black woman of any nationality to win a Nobel Prize.The citation for her award in literatur...

The Threat of White Nationalist Terrorism
Is the federal government doing enough to fight domestic terrorism? This week we talk to one former senior law enforcement official who says no. For nearly two decades, Daryl Johnson was senior domestic terrorism analyst at the Department of Homeland Security and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Back in 2009 he wrote a DHS Report on “Rightwing Extremism” that was widely circulated in the law enforcement community and was leaked to the press.Instead of taking action, Republicans on Capitol Hill a...

ICYMI: Shannon Watts "Fight Like a Mother"
Shannon Watts is the author of Fight like a Mother – How a Grassroots Movement took on the Gun Lobby and Why Women will Change the World.Until December of 2012 Shannon Watts was a stay-at-home mother of five and former communications executive.The day after the Sandy Hook tragedy, Shannon Watts started a Facebook group with the message that all Americans can and should do more to reduce gun violence.That online conversation turned into a grassroots movement -- Moms Demand Action which now has a chapter in e...


Can Racism Win in 2020?
Over the last few weeks, Donald Trump has left no doubt that he is a racist. He has also made it clear -- race will be perhaps THE biggest issue in 2020. The question is: Can racism win?This week Katie and Joe talk to Keith Boykin. Keith is a CNN political commentator, New York Times best-selling author, and a former White House aide to President Bill Clinton. Keith teaches at the Institute for Research in African-American Studies at Columbia University in New York and previously taught at American Universi...

Words Matter Library: The Ginsburg Tapes
This week we sit down with Lauren Moxley, the host of The Ginsburg Tapes Podcast -- which chronicles Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s oral arguments before the then all-male United States Supreme Court from 1972 to 1978 —before she became #Notorious RBG.The Ginsburg Tapes allows the listener to be a fly on the wall for some of the most important cases in American jurisprudence as future Justice Ginsburg challenged laws treating men and women differently. In between the actually Supreme Court recordings, Lauren puts t...

The Russia Attack and the FBI with James Baker
Few know more about the origins of the FBI's Russia investigation than our guest this week, former Justice Department and FBI senior official James A. Baker. From 2014 to 2017 Mr. Baker was general counsel of the FBI and was involved in the initial and some of the most important aspects of the investigation into Russia's attack on the 2016 presidential election. We talk to Jim Baker about that, Robert Mueller's testimony and if our government is doing enough to ensure that the 2020 election is free from for...


Special: ICYMI - Mueller Preview with Jeremy Bash
As Special Counsel Robert Mueller prepares to testify in front of Congress the week, Katie and Joe previewed his testimony with National Security expert Jeremy Bash in last week's episode.Some things are worth repeating. So in case you missed this important preview, here it is again.From 2009 to 2011, Jeremy served as Chief of Staff at the CIA under Director Leon Panetta and from 2011-2013 as Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense under then Secretary Panetta.A graduate of Georgetown and Harvard Law Sc...

Race and Immigration in Trump's America
Katie and Joe talk to two journalists to go beyond the tweets and find out what's really going on race and immigration in Donald Trump's America.Eugene Scott covers identity politics for the Washington Post. He joined the Post from CNN Politics, where he covered the 2016 presidential election and was the senior reporter on the website’s breaking news team. He’s a regular on-air contributor, providing analysis on MSNBC, CNN, CBS and NPR. Eugene is a graduate of the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill an...

Final Word: Barbara Jordan on Impeachment
Barbara Jordan was a lawyer educator politician and a leader of the civil rights movement a Democrat and Houston native. Jordan was the first African-American elected to the Texas Senate after Reconstruction and the first southern African-American woman elected to the United States House of Representatives.On July 25th 1974 Congresswoman Jordan delivered a televised opening statement as the House Judiciary Committee began consideration of articles of impeachment against President Richard Nixon. It is regard...


Mueller Testimony Preview with Jeremy Bash
Special Counsel Robert Mueller is scheduled to testify in front of Congress next week. Katie and Joe preview his testimony with National Security expert Jeremy Bash.From 2009 to 2011, Jeremy served as Chief of Staff at the CIA under Director Leon Panetta and from 2011-2013 as Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense under then Secretary Panetta.A graduate of Georgetown and Harvard Law School Jeremy was the policy director for national security issues 2000 Gore-Lieberman Campaign and also served as the Ch...

Words Matter Library: Four Friends by William D. Cohan
William D. Cohan is a special correspondent for Vanity Fair and is one of the most meticulous and intrepid journalists working today – a truly great reporter covering the intersection between Wall Street and Washington.Bill has also written for The Financial Times, The New York Times, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, The Atlantic, The Nation, Fortune, and Politico.In addition, Bill is the author of: The Last Tycoons: The Secret History of Lazard Frères & Co., House of Cards: A Tale of Hubris and Wretched Excess on W...

The Latest from Trumpistan
This week Katie and Joe review the Trump Family's Excellent Adventure: Part II - Ivanka Trump's prominent role at the G20 and the photo-op diplomacy in North Korea. They also discuss how Donald Trump tried to turn a national celebration into a celebration of himself.And last week Gold Star parent Khzir Khan welcomed new citizens to this country as he delivered the keynote address in Charlottesville Virginia at Monticello’s annual Independence Day Celebration and Naturalization Ceremony. Khan and his wife Gh...


SPECIAL The Declaration of Independence - Read by John F. Kennedy
On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statement. And like all mission statements, the words represented not what we were, but what we aspired to be. In fact, the author himself was a gifted writer, but a deeply flawed person who – like his country -- did not embody the ideas and ideal of that document.For more than two hundred and forty years, the story of Ameri...

SPECIAL Democratic Debate Wrap-up
Last week the Democrats held their first debates in Miami -- 20 candidates over 2 nights. Now that the dust has settled a bit Katie gets Joe's take on what happened and what – if anything has changed in the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination as a result. Katie and Joe go through the candidates and talk about who broke out and which ones aren't going anywhere.9keczija See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Cindi Leive - Former Editor in Chief, Glamour
Cindi Leive is the former editor-in-chief of both Glamour and Self magazines. She was the driving force behind barrier- breaking initiatives like “Glamour Women of the Year” and “The Girl Project” which supports girls’ education.Cindi is the author and editor of numerous books including the 2018 New York Times bestseller Together We Rise, about the organizing of the Women's March.She has interviewed heads of state, Hollywood and fashion’s biggest personalities, and iconic leaders from all walks of life. Her...


SPECIAL: Democratic Debate Preview
Welcome to a Special Edition of Words Matter – Joe previews the first Democratic debates held this week on MSNBC in Miami. 20 candidates, 5 moderators, 4 hours total.The Moderators will be Lester Holt, Savannah Guthrie, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow and José Díaz-Balart. The first group of 10 appearing on Wednesday:·      Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey·      Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts·      Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas·      Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota·      Former Rep. John Delaney of Mar...

Peter Baker - New York Times Chief White House Correspondent
This week Katie and Joe sit down with award winning author and the Chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times, Peter Baker.Peter has covered 4 presidents as a reporter – Presidents Trump and Obama for the New York Times and George W. Bush and Bill Clinton with the Washington Post.He is also the author of 5 books including Obama: The Call of History, Days of Fire: Bush and Cheney in the White House and Inside the Impeachment and Trial of William Jefferson Clinton  See acast.com/privacy for privac...

SPECIAL: The Legacy of Sarah Sanders
Katie and Joe discuss the legacy of outgoing White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders. Joe explains how damaging Sanders decision to end the White House press briefings has been and what is needed from the next Press Secretary to repair that damage. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


The Changing Media Landscape - Margaret Sullivan
Would Congressional impeachment hearings have the same impact as they did during Watergate? Washington Post media critic Margaret Sullivan talks to Katie and Joe about how the media landscape has changed and how it is far more difficult to have an impact with voters and the American people. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: Shannon Watts
Shannon Watts is the author of Fight like a Mother – How a Grassroots Movement took on the Gun Lobby and Why Women will Change the World.Until December of 2012 Shannon Watts was a stay-at-home mother of five and former communications executive.The day after the Sandy Hook tragedy, Shannon Watts started a Facebook group with the message that all Americans can and should do more to reduce gun violence.That online conversation turned into a grassroots movement -- Moms Demand Action which now has a chapter in e...

Trump Family's Excellent Adventure 2019 World Tour
This week we talk to Joe about the Trump Family's Excellent Adventure 2019 Taxpayer Funded World Tour. It started Memorial Day weekend in Japan. There was a brief stop back home to threaten Mexico. Then off to Europe to offend the British over to Ireland to make a few bucks. And then it was on to France to use one of the U.S. military's most hallowed burial grounds as a prop and a backdrop for a Fox News interview.Joe will explain what happened and why it matters. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-o...


Special Final Word: 75th Anniversary of D-Day
75 years ago this week -- on June 6, 1944 soldiers, sailors, and airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force undertook the largest amphibious invasion in military history.More than 150,000 U.S., British and Canadian troops, landed on the heavily fortified beaches of Normandy to liberate France and the Continent from 4 years of brutal Nazi Occupation.As the operation began, Armed Forces Radio broadcast a message to the troops from the Supreme Allied Commander and future President, General Dwight D. Eisenhower.G...

Cyberwar - How Russian Hackers & Trolls Helped Elect a President
When Special Counsel Robert Mueller spoke after his nearly two year investigation, he mentioned the Russia attack on our electoral system to start and end his remarks. Katie and Joe sit down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President Professor Jamieson is the Elizabeth Ware Packard Professor of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, the Director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, and Prog...

Special Preview: Cyberwar - Russian Hackers & the 2016 Election
Bob Mueller speaks -- Katie and Joe sit down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President Professor Jamieson is the Elizabeth Ware Packard Professor of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, the Director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, and Program Director of the Annenberg Retreat at Sunnylands. Professor Jamieson explains how and why the Russians tipped the election in favor of Donald T...


Contempt of Congress (with Anne Milgram)
Donald Trump is 0-2 in his battle to stonewall Congress. Anne Milgram joins Joe and Katie to explain why it might get a whole lot worse for the Trump Administration. Anne began her career as an assistant district attorney in the legendary Manhattan District Attorney’s office. In 2001, she went to work in the criminal section of the United States Department of Justice's civil rights division, where she rose to become the lead federal prosecutor in the nation for human trafficking crimes.During her time at DO...

Special Final Word: 65th Anniversary of Brown vs. Board of Education
Last week was the 65th Anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. This week the final word goes to the woman behind the case. Linda Brown was in the third grade when her father Oliver tried to enroll her in Sumner Elementary School in Topeka Kansas. Oliver and his daughter Linda were denied admission to the school that day. The year was 1950. Sumner was an all-white school. And Linda attended the school for black children across town. Separate but equal ruled the day in Americ...

How Dangerous is Donald Trump? (with Tony Schwartz)
He is the REAL author of The Art of the Deal -- Tony Schwartz joins Joe for an in-depth interview about how dangerous Tony thinks Donald Trump is as Commander-n-Chief. And Tony tells Joe the one thing he thinks Trump may leave the White House to avoid.And don't miss Joe's Shadow White House Briefing weekdays on Twitter until @PressSec decides to brief the White House Press Corps. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Shadow White House Press Briefing
It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need to be answered. . . .and so former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart is stepping up. Joe explain why he will be hosting a daily Shadow White House Press Briefing and how you can ask him questions on Twitter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

BONUS: Shadow White House Briefing (Preview)
It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need to be answered. . . .and so former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart is stepping up. Joe explain why he will be hosting a daily Shadow White House Press Briefing and how you can ask him questions on Twitter.Full Episode Available tomorrow See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Asymmetrical Constitutional Warfare (with Ron Klain)
This week, Joe talks to Washington wiseman Ron Klain about the Trump Administration and their Republican allies on Capitol Hill are now waging asymmetrical constitutional warfare.Ron is a distinguished attorney and policy maker who began his career as a Supreme Court clerk for Justice Bryon White. Ron has served in senior positions at the White House, the Department of Justice and on Capitol Hill. He is a veteran of 7 – yes SEVEN presidential campaigns. And in October 2014, he was appointed by President Oba...


SPECIAL: A Nation in (Constitutional) Crisis
This week, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said what many have thought for weeks, months and even years: the United States government is in a constitutional crisis.Former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah explains to Joe exactly why.Mimi is Pace Law's Distinguished Fellow in Criminal Justice and a Legal Analyst for MSNBC and NBC News. From February 2001 until October 2017, Mimi was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.  As an AUSA, Mimi successfully prosecuted and tried numerous cases i...

Preview: Mimi Rocah-Constitutional Crisis
Joe interviews Mimi Rocah and they discuss whether or not we have reached the point of a Constitutional Crisis. The full interview drops on Thursday.Mimi Rocah is Pace Law's Distinguished Fellow in Criminal Justice and a Legal Analyst for MSNBC and NBC News. From February 2001 until October 2017, Mimi was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Southern District of New York.  As an AUSA, Mimi successfully prosecuted and tried numerous cases including several high-profile Organized Crime cases. During her...

Mark Leibovich
Katie and Joe talk with award winning journalist and best-selling author, Mark Leibovich about Washington in the Age of Trump, Impeachment and the NFL. Mark is the chief national correspondent for The New York Times Magazine. Among other books, Mark is the author of the blockbuster best seller This Town Two Parties and a Funeral-Plus, Plenty of Valet Parking!-in America's Gilded Capital as well as Big Game: The NFL in Dangerous Times.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: Max Boot - Why I Left the Right
This week we put The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right, by Max Boot into the Words Matter Library. Washington Post Columnist Max Boot details his ideological journey from a “movement” conservative to a man without a party, beginning with his political coming-of-age as a young émigré from the Soviet Union, enthralled with the National Review and the conservative intellectual tradition of Russell Kirk and F. A. Hayek. Against this personal odyssey, Max simultaneously traces the evolution of mode...

The Post Mueller Landscape
Katie and Joe discuss the Biden roll-out, the Great Impeachment Debate, Sarah Sanders and 28 years later we give Anita Hill the final word. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

SPECIAL: The Great Impeachment Debate - Round 1
To impeach or not to impeach -- that is the question. This week our own Joe Lockhart had a op-ed column published in The New York Times under the headline: “There’s a Prize Bigger than Impeachment” -- that followed a Times column back in March by our friend Philippe Reines co-Host of the new podcast Unredacted with Emily Brandwin and Molly Jong Fast, entitled --  “Why Impeaching Trump is ‘Worth It’”. Philippe's argument was the exact opposite of Joe's.So, they decided to debate the issue face to face on Wor...


Final Word: Columbine 20 Years Later
The shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado happened 20 years ago this week. Katie gives a special Final Word to Laura Hall and Sarah Bush -- sisters who survived the shooting and last week ran the Boston Marathon together. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

The (Redacted) Mueller Report -- Now What?
Katie and Joe sit down with Carrie Cordero and Elie Hoenig. Carrie is the Robert M. Gates Senior Fellow and General Counsel at the Center for a New American Security. She is also an adjunct professor of law at Georgetown University Law Center, a CNN legal analyst, and a contributing editor of Lawfare. Carrie has served in numerous senior positions at the Department of Justice and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Her research and writing focus on intelligence community oversight, transpar...

SPECIAL: How to Read the (Redacted) Mueller Report
With the (redacted) Mueller Report set to be released on Thursday morning, Katie and Joe are joined by Matthew Miller for a reader's guide. Matt has worked at the highest levels of government and politics including service as the Director of the Office of Public Affairs for the Department of Justice, leading the Department’s communications team and serving as Attorney General Eric Holder’s spokesman.Prior to his service at DOJ, Matthew worked in leadership positions in both the U.S. House and Senate, as wel...


Margaret Sullivan
Margaret Sullivan is the media columnist for The Washington Post and before that Margaret served as the fifth public editor of The New York Times and was the first woman to hold that position. Margaret is a native of Lackawanna, New York and began her career as a summer intern at the Buffalo News becoming the first woman editor there and managing editor in the hundred and thirty nine year history of that storied newspaper. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: Zucked by Roger McNamee
The New York Times bestseller about a noted tech venture capitalist, early mentor to Mark Zuckerberg, and Facebook investor, who wakes up to the serious damage Facebook is doing to our society – and sets out to try to stop it. This week we add ZUCKED by Roger McNamee to the Words Matter Library. It’s a story that begins with a series of rude awakenings. First there is the author’s dawning realization that the platform is being manipulated by some very bad actors. Then there is the even more unsettling reali...

Welcome Joe Lockhart
Katie officially welcomes Joe as the new co-Host of Words Matter. This week Katie and Joe discuss the politics of the Mueller Report, Trump's tax returns and Joe Biden's bad week. And Katie pays tribute to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on the 51st anniversary of his poignant and iconic "Mountain Top" Speech -- this week Dr. King, has the final word. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: 'Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power'
As Nancy Pelosi retakes the Speaker’s gavel and the leadership of the Democratic opposition to Donald Trump, we add “Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Everything Nancy Pelosi has ever done, she has done extremely well. Listen to the life story of this historic leader -- the only woman and perhaps most influential and greatest House Speaker in American History. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Nina Totenberg -- Legendary Supreme Court Journalist
Katie welcomes her friend Nina Totenberg to Words Matter. Nina is NPR's award winning and legendary legal affairs correspondent. Her coverage of the Supreme Court and legal and political affairs has won her widespread recognition. Newsweek calls her "the creme de la creme of NPR" and Vanity Fair calls her "Queen of the Leaks." She's not a lawyer but any lawyer in Washington will tell you she knows more about the law than they do.From more than 30 years, Nina Totenberg has broken some of the biggest stories ...

Words Matter Library: Daniel Patrick Moynihan - A Portrait in Letters
The Almanac of American Politics described Daniel Patrick Moynihan as “The nation’s best thinker among politicians since Lincoln and its best politician among thinkers since Jefferson.” Before his election to the US Senate in 1976, Moynihan served in the administrations of Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Ford. He was ambassador to India, and U.S. representative to the United Nations, and was four times elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.This week we are honored to add Daniel Patrick Moynihan: A...


Final Word - Linda Brown
Linda Brown was in the third grade when her father Oliver tried to enroll her in Sumner Elementary School in Topeka Kansas. Oliver and his daughter Linda were denied admission to the school that day. The year was 1950. Sumner was an all-white school. And Linda attended the school for black children across town. Separate but equal ruled the day in America. The moment Linda was turned away, it started a series of events that toppled the idea of separate but equal and led her all the way to the steps of the Su...

What Happens Next?
With the Mueller Investigation over and his report delivered to the Attorney General, the battle moves to Capitol Hill. Katie and guest host Joe Lockhart talk with former state and federal prosecutor Elie Honig. As a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, Elie directed major criminal cases against organized crime, street gangs, drug traffickers, corrupt public officials, child predators and white collar criminals. Elie is the executive director of the Rutgers Institute for Secure Communiti...

Words Matter Library: We Say #NeverAgain
This week we put We Say #NeverAgain into the Words Matter Audible Library. This is a moving journalistic account of shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland and the fight for gun control - as told by the student reporters themselves. Read by Melissa Falkowski, Eric Garner, and the Parkland Student Journalists, this important book showcases how the teens told their own story. Listen as students share specific insight into what it has been like being approached by the press and how that ha...


Meet Joe Lockhart
Last week we talked to Former White Press Secretary Joe Lockhart about the news of the day how the Mueller investigation operates differently than the Starr investigation operated and how the White House in crisis battles with a hostile Congress and communicates with the press and the American people.Our listeners wanted to hear more -- so we invited him back.Joe served as the 19th White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton from 1998-2000. In 1999, Joe became the only White House Press Secreta...

Special Final Word - Charlayne Hunter-Gault
The month of March is international women's history month and we recently celebrated International Women's Day. Black history month just ended in February -- and so in honor of both, Katie will be highlighting some outstanding women in this space. This week...Charlayne Hunter-Gault is an Emmy award winning investigative journalist and recipient of 2 Peabody Awards. But before any of that, she was the first black woman to attend the University of Georgia in the segregated South in 1961. Charlayne Hunter-Ga...

Former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart
Joe Lockhart served as the 19th White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton from 1998-2000. In 1999, Joe became the only White House Press Secretary in American history to serve during the Senate Impeachment Trial of a US President. Later Joe co-founded the Glover Park Group and went on to serve as Senior Vice President of the National Football League. Joe is currently a CNN political analyst and Vice Chairman of Edelman Public Relations.We talk to Joe about his recent CNN appearance with forme...


Words Matter Library: Power Wars by Charlie Savage
This week we put Power Wars, by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Washington correspondent for The New York Times, Charlie Savage into the Words Matter Audible Library.First published in 2015, Power Wars is an investigative history of national-security legal policymaking in the Obama administration. Charlie is also the author of Takeover, published in 2007, which chronicles the Bush-Cheney administration’s efforts to expand presidential power.Charlie has been covering post-9/11 issues — including nation...

Charlie Savage of the New York Times
The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Charlie Savage is a Washington correspondent for The New York Times. He is also the author of “Power Wars,” published in 2015, an investigative history of national-security legal policymaking in the Obama administration, and “Takeover,” published in 2007, which chronicles the Bush-Cheney administration’s efforts to expand presidential power.Charlie has been covering post-9/11 issues — including national security, individual rights and the rule of law — since 2003, when ...

Meet Katie Barlow
Katie Barlow is the Host of Words Matter. She is a lawyer and the Founder and Editor of DC Circuit Breaker which provides news and analysis on the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. As a journalist, Katie has covered Capitol Hill with WTOP, including Justice Elena Kagan’s confirmation hearing, as well as the Supreme Court with NPR’s Nina Totenberg. As a lawyer, her practice includes civil litigation and white-collar defense with a focus on the Anti-Terrorism Act. She received dual degrees in ...


Vanity Fair's William D. Cohan
This week, new host Katie Barlow interviews Vanity Fair special correspondent William D. Cohan as her first episode of Words Matter. Bill is former senior Wall Street M&A investment banker for 17 years and is the New York Times bestselling author of three non-fiction narratives about Wall Street. His latest book Why Wall Street Matters is a must read for anyone trying to understand the political and policy issues at stake in the 2020 elections. Bill also writes for The Financial Times, The New York Times, B...

Words Matter Library: "Why Wall Street Matters" by William D. Cohan
This week we add Why Wall Street Matters By William D. Cohan to the Words Matter Library Bill is former senior Wall Street M&A investment banker for 17 years and is the New York Times bestselling author of three non-fiction narratives about Wall Street. Bill is also a special correspondent at Vanity Fair. He also writes for The Financial Times, The New York Times, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, The Atlantic, The Nation, Fortune, and Politico.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

The Show Goes On - Max Boot Interview
Washington Post Columnist Max Boot is the Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and a Global Affairs Analyst for CNN. In his latest book, The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right, Max details his ideological journey from a “movement” conservative to a man without a party, beginning with his political coming-of-age as a young émigré from the Soviet Union, enthralled with the National Review and the conservative intellectual tradition of...


Steve's Final Episode
Steve sits down with Elise and Adam in his first podcast interview since Howard Schultz announced on 60 Minutes that he was "seriously considering" an independent bid for President of the United States. In 2019, a billionaire thinking about running for president is a topic of great consequence. As Steve himself has reminded us again and again over the last two years, these are extraordinarily dangerous times, and the very future of our republic may hang in the balance. We believe that at this pivotal moment...

April Ryan - "Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House"
April Ryan is an award winning journalist, veteran White House Correspondent, and best selling author. And by reporting from inside the Trump White House, she’s come under fire -- just for doing her job . We talk to April about what it was like to cover the White House under Presidents Clinton, Bush, Obama - and now how and why she’s come under attack by Donald Trump and his press office.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Shutdown Fallout
The 35-day federal government shutdown may be over - for now - but the long terms effects will be felt by hard working Americans for months and perhaps years to come. $200 million in spending per week was lost not only by federal workers, but contractors and the people working in businesses that count on those dollars to survive. Elise and Steve discuss the political fallout from Donald Trump’s PR stunt gone horribly wrong.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library Special State the Union Edition
On what should be the eve of Donald Trump's second State of the Union address, we add Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 1941 “Four Freedoms” speech and Ronald Reagan’s Challenger Disaster speech to the Words Matter Audible Library. Through Audible you can go back and listen to the full address and absorb and appreciate the history of what real presidential leadership sounds like. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Trumpistan in Chaos
The longest government shutdown in US history continues as Donald Trump and Senate Republicans continue to hold the paychecks of more than 800,000 Americans hostage in exchange for an unnecessary and ineffective border wall. Elise and Steve discuss the politics of the latest Trump created crisis - as well as how the 2020 Democratic field is shaping up. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: 'A Letter from Birmingham Jail' & 'Where do we go from Here?' By Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
This week, to honor legacy of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr we proudly put “A Letter from Birmingham Jail” and “Where Do We Go from Here?” into the Words Matter Audible Library. There is perhaps no leader or public figure who symbolizes the power and importance of words better than Dr. King. Both of these Audible titles are historical treasures which are all too relevant today.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr. on Race in America
Professor Eddie Glaude Jr. argues in his groundbreaking book Democracy in Black that we live in a country founded on a “value gap”—with white lives valued more than others—that still distorts our politics today. Whether discussing why all Americans have racial habits that reinforce inequality, why black politics based on the civil-rights era have reached a dead end, or why only remaking democracy from the ground up can bring real change, Professor Glaude crystallizes the untenable position of black America-...

Words Matter Library: 'Democracy in Black' by Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr.
We are proud to put "Democracy in Black" by Professor Eddie S. Glaude Jr. into the Words Matter Audible Library. Part manifesto, part history, part memoir, Professor Glaude argues that we live in a country founded on a “value gap”—with white lives valued more than others—that still distorts our politics today. Whether discussing why all Americans have racial habits that reinforce inequality, why black politics based on the civil-rights era have reached a dead end, or why only remaking democracy from the gro...


Welcome to 2019!
Welcome to Season 2 of Words Matter. The federal government is still shutdown, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the only adult in the room and the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination is off to a fast start. Steve Schmidt gives his take and explains what it all means. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: 'Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power'
As Nancy Pelosi retakes the Speaker’s gavel and the leadership of the Democratic opposition to Donald Trump, we add “Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Everything Nancy Pelosi has ever done, she has done extremely well. Listen to the life story of this historic leader -- the only woman and perhaps most influential and greatest House Speaker in American History. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

2018 Words Matter Library Review
As our first season comes to a close, we review the titles put into the Words Matter Audible Library in 2018. From Steve Kornacki’s “The Red and the Blue”, to “Profiles in Courage” to “Columbine” to “Tailspin” by Steven Brill - we go through the books we selected and why they are important to the public discourse in the Age of Trump.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy
In this addition of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible we add this Pulitzer Prize winning book by President John F. Kennedy. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses. Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible whe...

Roger Ailes & Trump State TV - an interview with Gabe Sherman
Would Nixon have survived if Fox News was around in 1974? Author of the “Loudest Voice in the Room,” Gabe Sherman explains how the GOP propaganda network was forged in the aftermath of Watergate - and how it’s now prepared to protect Donald Trump against all enemies- real and imagined.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: 'The Loudest Voice in the Room' by Gabriel Sherman
This week we add Gabriel Sherman’s “Loudest Voice in the Room” to the Words Matter Audible Library. This astonishing inside story of Fox News, details how Roger Ailes created the most powerful media and political business in the world and divided a country in the process. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


'Swamp Chronicles' - by Adam Davidson of the New Yorker.
In his “Swamp Chronicles” series for the New Yorker, Adam Davidson follows the money of Donald Trump, his family, his Administration, and his business associates. From Azerbaijan to Scotland to Florida - Adam explains how the Trump Organization looks more like a money laundering scam than a legitimate business operation. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: 'TrumpNation - The Art of Being Donald Trump' by Tim O’Brien
This week we add “TrumpNation the Art of Being Donald Trump” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Find out why this comprehensive and definitive biography Donald Trump sued author Tim O’Brien for $5 billion. (Spoiler alert: Trump lost.) Get this must listen title from Audible - now! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Remembering 41
George H. W. Bush was a man of honor, courage, integrity and kindness. The last of the "greatest generation" to serve as Commander-in-Chief, the 41st President of the United States will be remembered for many things -- not the least of which is his humanity. Few "great" people are also "good" people, George H. W. Bush was both -- and he will be missed.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: '41 - A Portrait of My Father' By George W. Bush
This week we are proud to add “41 - A Portrait of My Father” by George W. Bush to the Words Matter Audible Library. This important and moving presidential biography by a presidential son is a must read to understand the both the 41st and the 43rd Presidents. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Mississippi Smoldering
In a knockdown, drag out, exceptionally nasty runoff election for a US Senate seat - Democrats in Mississippi came much closer than anyone expected. Elise talks about the brutal campaign and the changing politics of her home state.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library – 'Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It' by Steven Brill
This week we add “Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It” to the Audible Words Matter Library. The latest book by award-winning journalist and best-selling author Steven Brill is a brilliant analysis of how and why major American institutions no longer serve us -- causing a deep rift between a vulnerable majority and the protected few. And at the same time, Mr. Brill gives us hope by explaining how some individuals and organizations are laying the ...


'How to Get Rid of a President' - An Interview with author and former CIA officer David Priess
David Priess is a former CIA officer and presidential briefer, his new book “How to Get Rid of a President” tells the history of the political dark arts in action. In the nation's highest office we see election dramas, impeachments, assassinations, natural death in office, mixed with party intrigue, personal betrayal, and backroom deal making. David explains how presidents can be sidelined without being removed from office. An essential Audible title for any political junkie in the Age of Trump. Audible -- ...

Words Matter Library: ‘How to Get Rid of a President' by David Priess
This week we add "How to Get Rid of a President" by David Priess to the Audible Words Matter Library. A former CIA officer and presidential briefer, Priess tells the history of the political dark arts in action. In the nation's highest office we see election dramas, impeachments, assassinations, natural death in office, mixed with party intrigue, personal betrayal, and backroom deal making. An essential Audible title for any political junkie in the Age of Trump. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out...

LBJ and Reagan - An interview with Jonathan Darman author of 'Landslide'
This week we added "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics, Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, and shows how, from 1963 to 1966, these two men—the same age, and driven by the same heroic ambitions—changed American politics forever. This engaging title is a MUST Listen. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: 'Landslide' by Jonathan Darman
This week we add "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics, Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, and shows how, from 1963 to 1966, these two men—the same age, and driven by the same heroic ambitions—changed American politics forever. This engaging title is a MUST Listen. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

"It ain't over 'til it's over" - Midterm Election Wrap up
The 2018 Midterms keep going. In what was perhaps the most important Midterm Congressional Election in American history, voters put a check on Donald Trump and gave Democrats a solid majority in the House of Representatives. And almost a week later, some key races still haven't been decided. Steve and Elise talk about what happened, what's happening and what it means for the country going forward.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

The Gathering Storm of Constitutional Crisis
Within hours of Democrats regaining control of the House of Representatives, Donald Trump holds an explosive East Room press conference and fires the Attorney General - replacing him with an unconfirmed political hack. Elise, Steve and Adam discuss the gathering storm of constitutional crisis. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Midterm Election Preview
It is the most important midterm election in US history. On Tuesday Americans will either repudiate or validate Donald Trump and Trumpism. Elise and Steve look at the closing arguments on both sides and what’s at stake in Tuesday’s monumental election.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: "Columbine" by David Cullen
In this episode of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible, Elise interviews award winning journalist and author David Cullen about his New York Times best seller, "Columbine." They discuss the evolution of mass shootings and how these tragedies fit into today’s politics.Audible.com/WordsMatterAudible - because Words Matter.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Rob Reiner - Words Matter Interview
As Americans prepare to vote in the most important Midterm election in our 242 year history, we sit down with legendary actor, director, producer, writer and activist Rob Reiner -- someone who knows a thing or two about politics, social unrest, culture wars, and taking on a racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic bigot from Queens.And we take a look back at an iconic book and something America needs now more than ever -- "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out in...


Words Matter Library: "Profiles in Courage" by John F. Kennedy
In this addition of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible we add this Pulitzer Prize winning book by President John F. Kennedy. Profiles in Courage chronicles acts of bravery and integrity by 8 United States Senators. Caroline Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. narrate the story of leaders who defied their party and their constituents to do what they felt was right and as a result suffered severe criticism and significant losses. Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible whe...

Lord Ashcroft - Words Matter Interview
Elise talks with Lord Ashcroft about the new round of Ashcroft in America research leading up to November's midterm elections - and about his new book "White Flag? An Examination of the UK's 'Defence Capability." See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox, author of "Born Trump" - Words Matter Interview
Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox talks about her best selling book “Born Trump.” From Ivanka to Don Jr. to Eric, Tiffany and Barron - Emily tells us what really goes on inside America’s First (dysfunctional) Family.Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to:www.audible.com/WordsMatter Audible - because Words Matter  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Words Matter Library: "Born Trump" by Vanity Fair's Emily Jane Fox
Like his father, Donald Trump, had 5 children -- hoping that at least one would "turn out like him." Elise and Steve add "Born Trump: Inside America's First Family" by Vanity Fair's Emily Jane Fox to the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible. Audible - because Words Matter See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Post-SCOTUS Nomination Wrap Up
It was the most watched, the most bitter and the most partisan US Supreme Court confirmation process in more than 25 years. Elise and Steve explain who won, who lost and what the consequences will be in November. Plus in the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible -- Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom by Thomas RicksAudible -- because Words Matter See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: Thomas E. Ricks’ “Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom”
Elise and Steve put Tom Ricks’ “Churchill and Orwell: The Fight for Freedom” into the Words Matter Library.Pulitzer Prize winning author Tom Ricks provides a fresh look at Winston Churchill and George Orwell in the Age of Trump. Both Churchill and Orwell demonstrated vision and courage as they embodied the idea that words do matter. Tom Ricks masterfully chronicles their separate, yet contemporaneous, fight against the evils of totalitarianism. Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audibl...


Steve Kornacki, author of “The Red and The Blue" - Words Matter Interview
Description: The 1990s saw the birth of modern political tribalism. Steve Kornacki’s important new book, “The Red and The Blue,” explores the battles between Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich and how they lead to the partisan warfare we see today. Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to:www.audible.com/WordsMatter Audible - because Words Matter  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Words Matter Library: Steve Kornacki’s "The Red and The Blue: The 1990s and the Birth of Political Tribalism."
In a new segment we put Steve Kornacki’s The Red and The Blue in the the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible. Today, America is deeply divided - you either live in Red America or Blue America. Steve Kornacki of NBC News takes us back to the 1990s to find the birth of political tribalism in The Red and The Blue.Get this title free along with your 30-day free trial of Audible when you go to:www.audible.com/WordsMatter Audible - because Words Matter  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out inf...

Preet Bharara: LIVE from the 92nd Street Y - Words Matter Interview
LIVE from the 92nd Street Y. In their first interview in front of an audience - Elise and Steve talk with former US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara about crime, corruption and the rule of law in the Age of Trump. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


US Senate candidate Mike Espy - Words Matter Interview
Elise and fellow native, Professor Eddie Glaude, are back home in Mississippi and interview U.S. Senate candidate Mike Espy. They’ll talk trade, tariffs and what it’s like to run for office in age of Trump. Will Secretary Espy become the first Democrat in 30 years, and the first African American in over 100 years to represent Mississippi in the United States Senate? See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson - Words Matter Interview
Elise talks with Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson about the 17th anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Secretary Johnson reflects on the Russian hacking of the 2016 presidential election and explains why the United States may not be ready to protect against the same kind of interference in the 2018 midterm elections. And Steve has the final word on the New York Times anonymous opinion author - is this the work of an “adult in the room” or a “Trump enabler”?  See acast.com/privacy for priv...

The Life and Legacy of Senator John McCain
John McCain was a decorated war hero, a maverick Senator and the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. He lived by a set of values and principles that transcended politics and party. McCain loved his country and served it with valor, courage and integrity for 60 years. Elise and Steve reflect on the life and legacy of this great American leader.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Tim O’Brien, author of "TrumpNation" - Words Matter Interview
Elise and Steve talk to "TrumpNation" author Tim O’Brien about how he beat Donald Trump in a $5 billion lawsuit. Tim talks about what it's like to watch Trump when he's caught lying under oath. They discuss the Trump bankruptcies, the Russia connections, and what's really behind Donald Trump's deep and dangerous insecurities. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Omarosa and "All the best people" - Elise's Final Word
Donald Trump promised that he would hire "all the best people" for his Administration. Elise explains how Trump's attacks on Omarosa expose his twisted values and blatant corruption. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

A Political Expat's Journey
Steve Schmidt explains how the party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan has become the single greatest threat to liberty, freedom and human rights under Donald Trump. Then, Elise Jordan remembers Heather Heyer and reflects on the 1st Anniversary of the violent white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....


Elise Reflects on the 1st Anniversary of Charlottesville
On the 1st anniversary of Charlottesville, Elise Jordan reflects on one of the darker moments in recent history. Elise pays tribute to Heather Heyer, the peaceful protester who was murdered during a violent White Supremacist rally one year ago this weekend. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....

Margaret Hoover, host of "Firing Line" - Words Matter Interview
Welcome to "Words Matter" with Elise Jordan and Steve Schmidt. Our goal here is to promote reality. As a wise man once said, "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts." Words have power and they have consequences. In this episode we will explore the questions: How did we arrive at this political moment? Will the Republican Party and the conservative movement survive President Trump and Trumpism? And if the GOP survives, what does it look like and who leads it? We will explore these que...

Welcome To 'Words Matter'
On this sneak preview of "Words Matter," Elise Jordan gives us a look at what she and co-host Steve Schmidt have in store for their new weekly podcast. "Words Matter" debuts August 6th. New episodes Mondays. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information....