Michael Steele is living in lala land of if he really thinks that the evil working in Trump’s White House aren’t explaining to him exactly what QAnon is about, what David Duke is about, etc. I agree that Democrats need to lay close and better attention to middle income suburban voters but that face that racism, bigotry, misogyny and pure hate is now an accepted part of our lives tells me that his “base” is very well supported and Trump knows exactly what he is doing.
Why decent podcasts decide to go for the coin is beyond me. I enjoyed many of these episodes and like so many other pods will never pay. The choices are so far & wide for good pods. No need to pay a dime and in this day & are? Not even close. All the best.
I listen to all your episodes, so I was really sorry to hear you are moving to subscription only. I refuse to pay for a podcast because I can’t afford it. I’ll miss you, but not for long. F Kelleher Wisconsin
This is the most screwed up podcast I’ve ever listened to more than once. A rotating cast of hosts, long hiatuses, and now pay only? Ask David Axelrod how that worked out for him.
Ugh... seriously? You’re going to let him get away with saying all this with no pushback? Lame interview. Y’all literally let him get away with just defending everything he said and did as correct and appropriate. This is my first time listening to this podcast. I can’t imagine listening again.
Rod Rosenstein was rightly asked if systemic racism exists in policing. Why zero follow up on his answer (no)? This was my first and last time listening to this podcast.
Just listened to the conversation with Rod Rosenstein. The back and forth about why James Comey was fired as FBI Director was fascinating and irritating at the same time. At one point Rosenstein said he would not have been surprised if Comey was fired no matter who won the 2016 election for all the reasons he detailed in his letter. Assuming all those errors in judgment were as serious as they sound Comey should have been fired the day after the inauguration, not in May after all that transpired since the previous fall. It beggars belief that anyone could seriously contend Comey was fired for anything other than political reasons; Trump said so himself and any one who believes otherwise simply wasn’t paying attention.
Hard to pick a worse person for this program than the guy who stood behind Barr while Barr lied about the Mueller report Really bad choice
Listened to Rosenstein interview b/c it was fed thru subscription to Preet’s podcast. Preet would never allowed Rosenstein such a “walk in the park” interview of lobbed softballs. Two examples: 1) Rosenstein’s knowingly crafted his memo against Comey at t-rump’s request to allow t-rump to pretextually fire Comey based on the content of the memo knowing that the real purpose was to facilitate firing Comey to derail Comey’s Russia investigation. The interviewers gave Rosenstein a huge pass by allowing him to duck by saying the “content of the memo was accurate”. The scandal is not the accuracy of the memo but it’s manufacture to willfully cooperate in creating a pretext for t-rump to fire Comey to attempt to derail the Russia investigation. In so doing, Rosenstein compromised himself and the institution of the DOJ; 2) When asked about whether he offered to “wear a wire” in a mtg w/ t-rump, Rosenstein was allowed by the interviewer merely to duck by “denying the accuracy of the quote”. Where was the followup correcting the quote? Painful interview. Preet should not have promoted it.
Interesting. I am really glad to have heard this. And, he sounds like a lawyer and not in a good way. Humanity stripped away. I will put this podcast on radar for sure. Thanks.
So is this pathetic podcast.
OMG. What a political hack. Sad that Joe & Katie didn’t challenge him more but instead let him lie & spin about the Mueller investigation and Barr’s actions. I’ll give one more episode a listen before removing from my podcasts. Definitely will not be paying for it on Cafe.
This was scarily on point.
JFK speech during Civil Rights Era put the impatience of people during COVID19 Pandemic into context thinking about what African Americans were/are subjected to in this country. Anyone capable of empathy can see we still have a long way to go. 🇺🇸 It’s about us!! The American people ~ when we are divided then we are losing.
Today I listened to Joe Lockhart’s interview with Vice President Mondale about his experiences running for President. I was very moved by listening to this great man share his thoughts and feelings about the roller coaster ride his campaigning, against Democrats and then Regan, took him on. I remember being a sophomore in high school when Walter Mondale came to Niles West to give a speech. He was my choice for President before he came to Skokie, IL to speak in person. But after feeling him speak from his heart about the good things he wanted to do for the American people, I knew I had chosen wisely, unfortunately I was not old enough to vote. I was really disappointed about not being able to vote when Walter Mondale announced that his Vice President running mate was a woman, Geraldine Ferraro. Thank you Joe for your wonderful interview with Vice President Mondale. And for the great job both you and Katie do every week on your podcast. Linda S. Marshak
What an intelligent and fair reporting of FACTS. It is refreshing! It is enlightening! It is useful! Nothing better in a political podcast. 11/25/19. Best of all podcasts. Keep it going. 12-16-19. Adam Schiff interview was tops!03092020 Love the podcast. Sensible, factual interesting.
This podcast is excellent, informative, straight forward, no hype. In today’s interview with Stacey Abrams, she demonstrated beyond any doubt for me why she should be Biden’s pick for VP. She is brilliant, articulate, personable and makes the case for herself as the VP pick that is concise and convincing. Please get this episode of the podcast out to your friends and followers as Biden moves toward this important choice.
Just listened to the Podcast with Doug Sesnik. Great information only you and Katie are very misleading using the word socialism. Nobody in the current race is advocating for socialism, and you and Doug use the word over and over again. Very misleading to your audience. Why don’t you use the phrase Corporate Socialism. Corporate Welfare. Educate people on what Bernie is actually pushing. Very disappointed
I have been a listener since day 1 w Elise and Steve. Was very disappointed in the way they ended their associations w the show. I continue to listen because of Katie. I am not so much interested in the explanations of the politics that Joe provides. I find the explanations to be backward looking rather than forward looking. The best episode so far has been the Ginsberg Tapes. I thought Katie’s interview w the moderator was excellent. Second best was the episode w Today Explained host. Thank you RRaber
Although relatively new to this podcast, I have thoroughly enjoyed every episode. I appreciate the tone set for thoughtful conversation, no matter the topic. And I learn something (factual) every time. Love it ( and the theme music).
I like this podcast except for the introductory music. With great respect to the co-hosts and the real value of what they have to offer on these podcasts, the theme music is simply inane. What is the philosophy of theme music around news programs and talk shows and why is it always so annoying? Because they’re here to disturb us? Because disturbing people is the MO of the news business? Pod Save America is as informative and valuable as Words Matter, but its theme music is not annoying, nor does it forecast disturbances — and yet it deals with quite disturbing stuff. I detect joy in the theme, fun, and standard routines like knowing when to resolve a musical phrase and actually doing it. It’s pleasing, and not resolving musical phrases or leaving them hanging IS SO ANNOYING. Thanks for reading this. Dave Boyce Menlo Park, CA
Joe admittedly tweets out fake conversations to push his leftist agenda
Tired of the lies on here and twitter. I’m out on this.
Katie and Joe have the best words to quote Trump but they actually do the difference They have wicked smarts and love their ability to calm me down about the constant fires in country. I recommend to everyone I know now my 80 yr father is listening. Keep the words going .. they matter to ppl like me
I really love Joe Lockhart! So glad that he has joined the show. When Steve and Elise left, I wasn’t sure I could stick with it, but so glad that I did!
I love this podcast so much that I smile when I hear that intro jingle! Thanks for going the extra mile to drop some unique knowledge on political junkies like me! :)
The episode about Joe at the Moth....... i really enjoyed his sharing the personal side of working behind the scenes in politics at the national level. Thoroughly enjoyable. Even though the events were in the past, a bit of levity inserted right now is very helpful. Also, the quote you all source at the start of this show about being entitled to your opinion but not your own facts....that is attributed to Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Thanks for a consistently very good podcast.
Loved this episode with former Governor Weld.. He is thoughtful, experienced and a true Republican with Republican values.. Drain the SWAMP and remove this President who is way over his head and cannot catch up.. Thank you for profiling an alternative that isn’t akin to selecting the best of the worst..
I wasn’t about to listen this morning- A Republican! Lockhart and Barlow were consorting with a political enemy! Wow! The fellow was very much for a better Nation and at odds with the current president and his toadies.. Give this episode a listen.
Excellent stories. I’m a Democrat but enjoy the viewpoints of two reasonable Republicans. Of course, it’s pretty easy to agree on being anti-Trump these days. Update - new hosts still very good and like them a lot but I do miss Steve Schmidt’s snarkiness and brutal honesty.
This has become my favorite podcast. I’m eager for each new episode. With clear articulate arguments regarding the state of our nation allowing a dose of sanity in an otherwise infuriating news cycle. The quality of speakers is unmatched and I look forward to hearing what is and what is not “normal” from those that have experienced first hand how our nation has been run.
Love this show. Every time I listen to it I learn a ton of interesting stuff. Keep up the good work.
Great show- I agree with Joe- legitimate press MUST get tougher with the spin that the Republicans have mastered. 40% of republicans only listen to FOX- when the legitimate press has the opportunity to get to or provide the truth especially in an open live forum, stand tall, be polite and professional - BUT press for TRUTH- even directly to the president.
You rock! Thank so much for this simple and profound contribution. If only it were required listening.
Thank you for providing the audio version of the whistle blower’s complaint. It packed quite a punch!
An excellent podcast About the current state of our clinical affairs. What surprises me, is that lawmakers do not seem to care much about the truth. Rather, they are interested in maintaining power. I suppose that’s the way it’s always been, but it is extremely shocking in today’s current environment.
Excellent interview with Douglas Brinkley!!
Why is Trump saying that he wants to buy Greenland? Is it another distraction for Moscow because of the recent protest and nuclear disaster in Russia? I hear and read more news about Trump trying to buy Greenland and put down our ally Denmark than major events in Russia.
The discussion with Professor Brinkley was incredible. Thank you so much!
I was finding this interview fairly interesting until the discussion included 2020 Democratic Presidential candidates. In all of the commentary it was as if Pete Buttigieg did not exist. As if all his public statements about racism did not exist; his Douglass Plan did not exist- even though some comments made could have come straight out of his plan. Totally disgusted at these supposedly knowledgeable pundits.
Unabashed and unapologetic, honest freedom of speech IN ACTION and out in the open is what makes a true democracy. The conversation of the assault on liberty must be made. The institutions of America do not protect themselves. “Fascism thrives on the silence of good people.” (Quoted from podcast.) Let my voice be made stronger again by this podcast, with my heartfelt gratitude...Stir every soul you meet and know to vote in 2020, my fellow friends. For every vote harmonizes justice and peace for all... If everyone votes, we win.
Subscribed expecting ”facts, evidence, truth & objective reality” as claimed. My 1st listen was predicting prosecutor Mueller’s testimony before it was fact. Guessing what might happen is not factual reality. Big disconnect from “truth”. Why not analyze each of the president’s executive orders and their impact on our democracy? At least we would learn about something that has actually happened.
It’s intelligent and entertaining! One thing though ... The absence of Steve Schmidt from political discussion has left a huge void. His last episode on “Words Matter” was February, 2019. I would love his opinion on the current criminal activity in the WH 😢!
I really liked the show when Steve started it, but the last 3 episodes I couldn't even listen to the whole thing. This show has become a dumpster fire and I'm done.
This podcast is super informative, and the host is brilliant. Her questions are insightful, and her engagement with guests is excellent. I really enjoy listening to this every week, everyone should subscribe!
Great show, pure even tonality and provides great historical depth of understanding in these truly abnormal times. One question in a show titled Words Matter shouldn’t the opening quote of every show attribute the quote to its author, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, rather than a wise man once said? It would also be good to hear other historical quotes (from both sides) that may be topical to the discussion that day. As the Kahn family quoted Ronald Reagan in the last episode
So much to think about in the declaration and hearing Kennedy in this new recording was really nice. Old memories.
Excellent view points. Do miss Steve Schmidt and would like a bit more guest pundits, credible that is. Thanks for the information, education, and service.
New hosts are great. Excellent objective reporting. Thank you.
Katie & Joe ask the right questions in an easily digestible format. I love Joe’s take on what government is supposed to do. Worth your time, check it out.
Wish this was more then just 1 time a week. Helps me stay off the ledge.
love! This podcast! Especially the last episode with Anne Milgram. Speaker Pelosi is an incredible women Thank you!
The commentary is intelligent and thoughtful. I only wish it lasted longer!
I’ve listened to many of your episodes with no regrets. I was, however, disappointed when I tuned in to your latest with an interview of Tony Schwartz. The tape was speeded up which made it difficult to listen to. I know Tony doesn’t talk that fast because I’ve seen and heard him many times on TV. Please fix this to enable my continued listening. Thank you. Tap a star will continue once this is fixed.
In these uncertain political times, Joe Lockhart provides incredible insight, context, humor and sage wisdom. Very much like the great Tim Russert, I want to listen to Joe and grab a beer with him. This is a must-listen to podcast!
Best political podcast available.
If you are interested in growing your current and historical political intelligence, this is the podcast!
Great podcast. I had a question about the most recent podcast debating impeachment. No one discussed if proceding forward with impeachment, despite the fact that it likely won't be successful due to the current Senate, might help Bill Weld in his bid against 45?
I am a fan of Pod Save America who started listening to this podcast to make sure I got some bubble piercing sober / sane alternate perspectives from the right. I like new hosts Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart even more than the original hosts, and it certainly has become more entertaining and lively. But it would be good if your guests could include more center or right leaning (yet still sane/principled) guests.
While I was intrigued by the topic and the points made by each side I found the off topic personal banter to be annoying and distracting. The counter points were repeatedly made with few new ideas interjected and Philliepe’s use of profanity was unprofessional. Truly enjoyed other segments but not this one.
I've been with this podcast since its first episode and listened to it evolve into one of the better political/cultural programs out there. If you are interested in listening to many sides of the intelligent parties in the political spectrum, this is a good start. Not for the rabidly partisan of any ilk.
Words Matter has become my favorite non-comedic podcast. Though I was disappointed by the departure of Steve Schmidt, I appreciate the remaining and new analysts and their review of our current political landscape. I’ve grown weary of the left swinging pendulum views of many of my peers. In many respects, it is no different from the right swinging pendulum views of many of my ideological opponents. I want to start building, and rebuilding the center of American political reflection: in particular, how can we define, agree upon, and work toward the Common Good? Words Matter is helping me fill in the neglected aspects of our complex social and political world — that is, neglected by me and a narrow, polarized point of view.
Found this podcast after listening to Steve on Bill Maher and fell in love with the podcast and crew!! Will miss Steve but I’m glad I was able find this podcast and have/will continue to pass along to others. Since this posting Joe has been amazing !!!
Wonderful, thoughtful and extremely relevant to our political climate.
The new crew are really really good. I thought I’d miss Steve and Elise, but this is an upgrade in wisdom and morality. Well done Words Matter Media.
No mention of Wolfie’s 1980s gig as chief D.C. Hasbara Shoveler at and for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. This after Wolfie’s 1970s gig at The Uber-Conservative Jerusalem Post. Why did Margie and Joe hide these basic facts of Wolfie’s resume?
Thanks for podcast Library-Madam Speaker. I want to read the book to learn more about this fascinating lady. I do believe Pelosi is the greatest Speaker of the House in US History.
What happened to Steve and Elise?
Joe Lockhart is the most interesting of any guest you’ve had. Please bring him back!!!
Love listening to Joe. Keep him on!
Steve working for Schultz is... a choice. His inability to answer the questions and his blowup here are an immense disappointment. I hope the podcast continues without him because the concept is so important, the execution brilliant, and I really enjoy Elise and Adam’s commentary. Update: Really enjoying Katie Barlow as the new host! Love that the pod is continuing, Elise made a huge mistake leaving. Oh well!
I couldn’t wait to listen to Steve and Elise in a long-format setting. It was great while it lasted. I’m giving the new team their shot, but I’m not refreshing my podcasts on Monday afternoon chomping-at-the-bit to listen...
Katie Barlow is a breath of fresh air! Her ease and style are most welcome.
Wow... I have unsubscribed. Horrible interview... attacking for your own political agenda instead of seeking the truth. This was a favorite pod. But it got riuned quick with the addition of the third wheel Mr. L. I refuse to say his name. What a hack. Don't waste your time here...
Nothing against the podcast hosts currently running the show - they are adequate, but without Steve Schmidt this podcast has lost its heart and its edge. STEVE COME BACK!
Have really enjoyed Katie’s first couple of interviews as the Host of Words Matter. Refreshing to listen to a broadcast professional who asks relevant questions and knows how to follow-up! The Joe Lockhart interview was BEYOND engaging and enjoyable! Lockhart would be a great co-Host!!! Please consider it?
I love Steve and Elise. Who is this other yahoo? He acts like he’s trying to prove something. I quit !!!!! Not worth a minutes time anymore Bye
I have loved this show since the beginning but Mr. Levine’s conduct of Mr. Schmidt’s last show was shameful. He was needlessly demeaning and antagonistic toward Mr. Schmidt throughout. His pompous epilogue to the event was condescending to both the listeners and Mr. Schmidt.
My husband and I both enjoy this podcast. Thoughtful and timely. I think Steve Schmidt makes a lot of sense to me.
I came to this podcast specifically to listen to Steve and Elise. Now they're both gone. I'm not sure I will continue, but the interview with Max Boot was a good one, and I appreciate the tip about Matt Grossmann. I would like to hear more from him so I followed him on Twitter.
This show, to my ears, tries to find and define the middle ground that has been lost with the fall of the middle class since the turn of the century.
Max Boot was exactly the right person to eliminate the bad taste left by Steve Schmidt last week. Steve was always the weak link in the podcast with his bullying tone and imperious manner. If there are enough thoughtful nevertrumpers like Max, we may be able to recover from the present catastrophe.
Steve was pathetic, sounded ... Murline, SF Bay Area Elsie and Adam thank you for your effort. Steve has never, ever sounded so arrogant and even bat..... crazy! The fact that he could not describe a way to a path to 270, is the same reason he gave us Sarah Pailin and all that followed. He needs to just go away now. Please no more damage to our fragile system.
👎Steve and Alise are done,! Bummer!
Boy! Did Steve do a complete 180 or what? I don’t know if this last episode with Steve was a political stunt on his behalf, but there was nothing Steve said that persuaded me to even think about giving Shultz a nano second of thought. I guess we all have to work and need to make our money but boy after hearing Steve time and time again calling out Republicans for selling out their country (and rightly so) it’s very difficult not to think that he’s doing the same thing.
I was a huge fan of this podcast when it launched, and listened to each episode as soon as they were available. I found Elise, Steve and Adam to be fair and measured in their questions. I was disappointed in their most recent interview with Steve Schmidt. Elise and Adam took a discernible and decidedly hostile approach in their questions to Steve. They did not exercise restraint in letting Steve respond to their incessant questioning. This episode did not seek to pursue objective reality, and Elise and Adam’s disdain was abundantly evident. It seemed more like an interrogation and less like an objective interview. Reluctantly, I am deleting the Words Matter podcast from my playlist as Elise and Adam have decided to become opportunists in trying to grab headlines and promote the podcast, instead of adhering to the principles of objective reporting.
I loved this podcast. I listened to the session with April Ryan - great. Then I listened to the last session with Steve S. He was disrespected. No one else has had to defend their potential presidential pick like Adam demanded of Steve. I left when Steve and Elise left.
Excellent educational and informational insights!
I don’t know Adam Levine, obviously he has some credentials. However, a couple things, after listening to his one-sided defense of a ham-handed attempt at baiting Steve Schmidt. Mr. Schmidt is one of the most interesting, intelligent and articulate political strategists I have followed over the past half century. I don’t always agree, but his arguments are always incredibly well thought out. Levine’s questions, which he no doubt will continue to defend, clearly had another political agenda way beyond getting to the real issues. That defies any semblance of journalistic integrity. Perhaps he was trying to light the fuse in an attempt to generate ratings. What he did was blow a major hole in the side of the show. At the same time, Ms. Jordan was polished and professional as always, and clearly sensed that Levine was on the wrong course, and on multiple occasions made courageous attempts to steer the ship back in course. Levine seems to have intentionally crashed the show into an iceberg. I will continue to find other venues to listen to Elise and Steve, but like millions of others, it will not be on this sinking podcast. Perhaps he can resurrect McNeil Lehrer or Jerry springer or some other trashy reality show.
I think this is a week podcast. Neither SS nor EJ seem enthusiastic about it. I don’t see the connection between the name WORDS MATTER and the content of the podcast. I guess the name is a gimmick in these times of pathological lying on stage. SS’s departure remarks were rude and like the old SS we used to know.
I have enjoyed the podcast right along. I listen to get a different perspective. I will really miss Steve Schmidt. I wish him well. Keep up the great work Elise!
The tone of the interview with Steve on his final episode was too pointed and overly aggressive. I have enjoyed the podcast and Steve’s important commentary over the past year. Giving yourself permission to be “pointed” up front in an effort to appease some listeners is lazy journalism and as it turns out has cut off further conversations on the merits of third party candidates. Didn’t have to be this way.
The hosts of this podcast really and truly believe they are having rigorous, objective conversations. They sound little more than soft spoken versions of slates political gabfest. I truly felt Steve’s frustration in this conversation. I use to be a neo-liberal and have listened to Steve on MSNBC and New York Times podcast over the years. He was literally one of the few republican voices that have been both critical of Obama and Trump throughout the last 9 years. The condescending comment about -how this podcasts is objective while Steve chose a different path- is a perfect encapsulation of the attitude that turn people off from the Democratic Party. The show is called words matter and yet there seemed to be no understanding of logic and rhetoric. So tired of hearing unlearned pundits talk down to people who actually know what they are talking about. This episode also revealed how little the hosts knew about economic values, and how colored their views are based off their partisan leanings. It was sad because the other two don’t seem to see it. At least podcast like Pod Save America and Slates Political Gabfest own their partisanship. Heck, I thought this was Steve’s podcast which was why I listened in the first place. I thought the others were co-hosts. Looks like it’s my final episode as well.
Was great until Steve left. Unsubscribed and won’t listen to Levine. Schultz/Schmidt 2020
I've been a faithful listener of the podcast and have appreciated the viewpoints presented as well as the book recommendations. I was sad to see that Steve's final episode went so badly. As much as I am troubled by Schult's candidacy, I think that the points Steve raised about the shortcomings of the two-party system are valid and that he did not deserve to be treated with such overt hosility. I will continue to listen to the podcast for the time being to see what direction it takes, but hope that this approach does not continue.
I don’t know or care what happened but these two voices are very much needed. Steve- I always start out thinking I disagree with you until you finish presenting your argument. I’m not always in agreement when your done but you almost always move my needle. You persuade. You help me see different angles. Elise- I need a Mississippi envoy to help me understand the nuances of the South to help tear down my prejudices. I need your clear-eyed knowledge of foreign policy to balance my confusion. I hope both of you will find another venue for readily available detailed conversation. Cheers to all your great work.
I enjoyed this podcast for several months. I liked the principled arguments against what Trumpism has done to the Republican Party and the country. And as a liberal, I like hearing pushback from a conservative point of view. Steve Schmidt was part of this. But now I know he was just doing this podcast to bide time until he could get a paying gig as a campaign consultant, something he obviously values more than acting on the principles he has been espousing on this show.
I just found this pod and love it. I am a long time fan of Elise and Steve from Morning Joe. I am disappointed that Steve walked off the pod. I plan to continue to listen because words do matter.
I have been impressed with your podcast at least until the interview with Steve where you revealed yourself to be just another bully media outlet trying to push a point of view under the auspices of “facts matter.” My opinion only of course.
I just finished Steve's last show episode. I'm glad the show took a hard look at Schultz. Remembering every president who ran as an 'executive,' none were successful serving the needs of the people. Self-funded campaigns are bad. Let's have a president elected by a majority with campaigns funded by small campaign donations. When a wealthy person speeks of 'The American People,' they are only thinking of their peers, other wealthy persons. I want a president where their peers are of the former middle class. Wouldn't that be original? Let's try that 70% tax for Schultz, he may even come to appreciate what it does for our country.
The way that Steve was treated on the latest episode was ridiculous and that will be the final episode I listen to. I’m moving on as well.
I have been a fan of his and the podcast. I was willing to set aside my “Sarah Palin” reservations. However he is now setting up the next catastrophe with Howard Schultz. What are the odds that one person could have their hand in two of the biggest political screw ups in one lifetime. Steve needs to take a look @ his life and his priorities.
I’m not even sure how I stumbled across this podcast. I was already subscribed when I went on a search for podcasts about expats. In my search, I ran into the episode entitled political expat. I immediately wanted to listen to every single episode that I’ve missed because the interview was nothing but gold. I can’t wait to catch up while on my words matter binge and wish I could upvote every single episode to keep it in the top recommended. Great, great podcast!
I understand Steve Schmidt is not the only person on this podcast. However, after I found out that he is supporting Howard Schultz I want no part of this. You can't claim that Donald Trump is the most dangerous President we have ever had and then turn around and risk anything that will leave him in office. It is a betrayal of everything you have said. You join in the shame that is Trumps.
Insight from the political grifter who brought us Sarah Palin and is now bringing us Howard Schultz. I truly feel bad for people who think this man has anything more to him than graft.
I am a Pennsylvanian who was raised Republican but was always taught to think for myself. That's why these two are stars in my eyes andI always enjoy their podcasts. CLUE: I can't stand the state of our democracy right now and havent been able to stomach it since Reagan, when I turned Democrat. Like so many of us, I thought politics didn't apply to me as a young person, but now I am older, and boy do they matter. So, yes, Words Matter. It's a perfect name for a near perfect podcast.
Great to hear that rational, reasonable, fact based arguments are being championed in this podcast.
Elise Jordan’s hosting and commentary reflect openly the struggle for a good society in which we are engaged, and the intelligent discussions on the podcast are what we need to bring that struggle to a successful conclusion. The choice of books and guests is excellent and always thought provoking.
It was 5am today when these words, introduced by Elise Jordan, coursed through my earphones: "Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi..." "It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned." "...white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice..." "I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land." Then the tears came. Words matter.
Really enjoyed listening to Professor Glaude Jr. very informative. I feel his anger and frustration that we are where we are, the 34% somehow has control, the worst of the Greed Over People party cannot ruin forward progress. This is the time to correct our course as a nation. Censuring the President is not premature it’s overdue, then indict, impeach, incarcerate. ⚖️ America needs to define itself again! 🇺🇸
Elise and Steve are insightful, intelligent, inquisitive and ask great questions of their guests.
This pod leaves a lot to be desired. I love Steve Schmidt but he’s more like a guest that a host. And all the repeats?? This pod is good but it can be fantastic!
This podcast is where you get real honest views and analysis without the hidden agenda or blind ideology that you get in other political analysis shows.
Its good to hear a voice or two of reason from the Republicans.
Excellent insight into the political world with outstanding guest. Free to subscribe, but even if it did cost you a Peso it’s worth it; however, There Are No Pesos so Mexico is not paying for your Podcast. The good news it’s Free! And a good thing too because ... There Are No Pesos!!!!
Any Pod that has an intro from the Allman Brothers has to be good…and the words live up to the music!
The podcast is so compelling I can hardly interrupt an episode. The moderators ask insightful questions, don’t interrupt the guest and the subjects are always interesting.
Too much vocal fry. I can’t listen to it.
Let us hear from you way more, Steve...please.
I've always wanted to hear more from Steve Schmidt and Elise Jordan. They don't disappoint.
First got to know Elise and Steve on Nicolle Wallace’s show, but didn’t listen to their podcast until I learned they interviewed Adam Davidson. What a great show! So well-structured but natural-flowing conversation. I’m a subscriber from today.
As a veteran of the trenches, Schmidt knows lots of the inner workings of the government. It doesn't hurt that he finds potus despicable. Updated: Now that they have sold out to Audible, it has added too many product placements for Audible. The Words Matter "Library" is simply a 10 minute Audible Commercial outtake of a later broadcast which is what I want to hear. Words Matter, and that's why authors write books and don't write speeches regarding their topics. Wherre is Steve Schmidt?
When I found myself ashamed to the point of tears while talking with a European tourist, I knew I had to choose. I wish Elise (and all others like her) made the same choice I did. We need to take the party back. This GREAT podcast will help.
Love the podcast. My night stand has a stack of books thanks in large part to this show. Full disclosure... I’m a Steve Schmidt groupie.
I grew up all over the south but have spent the last 30 years on the west coast. My family were blue dog Democrats and later Republicans however I have been a progressive democrat since voting for Humphrey as a high school senior in 1968. I therefore have always felt comfortable around all sorts of people...until now. I very much enjoy you if podcast because I like hearing all sides of issues and you give me hope that the current political climate is simply a horrible glitch and that you and your guests are still representative of sane conservative thought, and this too shall pass. My only intractable fear is that climate change denial will cause irreversible catastrophe before sanity is reestablished.
I love this podcast - it’s in my top 3
The one podcast in my feed that I listen to as soon as it drops. Fact based and relevant. Ms. Jordan is a skilled interviewer. I’m grateful for her hard work and preparation.
I would have given it a 5, but the production qualities of this show are awful. It sounds like it’s recorded in a conference room. Maybe Audible can find some extra studio space and a quality engineer. In spite of that, the interviews are excellent, the guests are both relevant and at the top of their fields. Elise and Steve are intelligent, knowledgeable and entertaining! Don’t miss a single episode!
I am a liberal democrat but I look forward to your analysis of the news and events which lot of the times I agree with! I wonder what John McCain would have done if he was alive! Would he have left the Republican Party and become an independent?
Listening to common sense commentary from intelligent, accomplished people with true civic and patriotic motives is refreshing. Let’s rebrand “America First” as a mantra for America first to lead the way in a liberal (small L) democracy, in our country and the world, where human rights and justice are carried out in a manner consistent with the framers’ desire to form a more perfect union. Let’s again make that the norm. In a time where politics is seemingly being pulled far right or left, my hope is their message of moderate politics is adopted for the betterment of our great country and the world.
Really enjoy this podcast. Guests are outstanding. Hosts are insightful and interesting. No ideologues here, just intelligent conversation on the issues of the day. As an independent i appreiate the middle of the road - the road less traveled these days. Highly recommend!
Very disappointing. Lots of erudite bias, not enough consideration of both sides. This could have been so much better.
Remember the 80s movie Red Dawn, in which the Soviets had invaded and occupied most of America? The American resistors would huddle around illegal radios and listen to the voice of a station telling them all was not lost, fight on. This podcast reminds me of that - a voice in the wilderness to conservatives with “small-d” democratic ideals, resisting Trump’s co-opting of the GOP and systematic destruction of democratic institutions.
Thank God for this podcast. Steve Schmidt is a breath of fresh air in these scary times. This is the podcast for those who think they are the only ones who see the dangerous road on which this president is taking us. A must-listen.
Steve Schmidt was the Republican I hated to love. A smart, tough, insightful political expert that always made me wish he was a Democrat. I really admire the way he takes on Trump and stands up for true American values. One can learn much from this articulate and determined guy who has left the Republican party.
I feel a sense of civic duty to listen to each and every one of these podcasts.
No bs. Excellent to get views from former GOPers.
This is a Republican slanted podcast that will criticize Donald Trump.
This man is easily the most articulate and learned sounding in today’s media. I have many respected favorites but Steve wins
I very much enjoy Steve’s input, but Elise really grates on me. I just can’t get behind her POV or even see the logical argument in them most of the time.
I heard Steve for a the first time on a Preet Bhrara podcast and was motivated to listen to Words Matter. I'm glad I did. Steve and Elise reaffirmed my faith in the basic concepts of American government, civics, and public society. I even stopped subscribing to Pod Save America and await each episode of WM. Keep up the good work.
I absolutely appreciate the willingness of the moderators to speak honestly and passionately about the state of government and politics in America today. Thus podcast is a must if you are searching for voices of sanity and reality.
Words Matter’s critical message includes that facts, decency, norms of public service, and rule of law matter.
I love this discussion because it’s honest and intelligent. My family loves this podcast because I listen when I am cooking, which usually translates to the best inspired meals ever.
Loved it! Steve Schmidt is so good!!
I want to be part of the solution; while I am not a Republican; I want to keep an open mind and listen to what the other side thinks. There is such a thing as fair and balanced; this podcast provides that. Elise and Steve are sane, conservative voices that must be heard. I really like this podcast and I respect their perspectives and the light they shine on the ongoing issues we face as a country. Great job!
This is a gut wrenching analysis of our times. I’m afraid it is the best podcast I have ever heard.
Loved the first podcasts, back to logic and sensiblitiy. But.. where has it gone?!
Respect and have come to revere both Steve Schmidt and Elise Jordan from their appearances on MSNBC. There has not a new podcast in the past few weeks so i hope they continue in the future. First few episodes were well done and look forward to more.
This podcast is perfect. No yelling, screaming or hosts trying to be know it all’s. Steve and Elise are a great team. They are informative and enjoyable to listen to. Please keep the podcasts coming.
I love these two under any circumstances but it’s so refreshing to have such honest access to them and their perspective. I have eagerly subscribed and highly recommend ‘Words Matter’
Steve keeps me sane in all of this crazy political scene. His integrity shines through. I am not a conservative or a republican, but this is a conversation I can listen to.
I am so happy to a found this podcast! I have always been a fan of Steve Schmidt, and to hear him in long-form, rather than just 3 to 5 minutes segments, is a joy. He and Elise are brilliant together.
Love this so far, can’t wait for more episodes
Every show is better than the last! Fascinating details from behind the political scenes as told by 2 very smart, reasonable, honest insiders. Great guests, too. I’m very grateful for their wisdom in these turbulent times.
Finally sensible Conservatism that mirrors my views on multiple topics.
Steve Schmidt as a third party candidate before or after the Trumpist party is decimated would be a healing balm to thoughtful centrist voter from either party. He is an eloquent force for good.
Smart. Two bright voices from right of center who get it. When will Steve Schmidt run for office?
In your search to find background for your own thinking, this deserves a place. No party nor person, has either a monopoly on truth or evil, but some are worse than what is reasonable. We all should read, and listen widely, avoid the extreme edges, and calmly reason together. This podcast has a place in that reasoning process.
Another one to put up there with Preet's Stay Tuned podcast. Reassurance that there are still sane people in the country.
Intelligent and well presented. I am a Democrat but I agree with many of the points in the podcast! Steve, help start this third party as I agree with the points outlined
As a life long democrat, I can understand why some people are Republicans. Makes me wonder if the thoughtful people from both parties can form a third party?
This is a program to present its own bias as the truth. Poor radio journalism.
I am on the hunt of meaningful conversations by people of integrity. I want to learn something too. This podcast fits that. But most important I need to hear good, competent, people who love our Country and are alert to the drop peril we are facing. Ms. Jordan and Mr. Schmitt comfort me during this time where I mostly feel doom is ascending.
The hosts have a wealth of knowledge and have had interesting guests
The interview with Margaret Hoover was great. All of the op ed Trump hate that came after was unnecessary and unimaginative.
Terrific podcast; thoughtful, well articulated insights and interviews. Thanks, Elise and Steve!
I have long been looking for more of Elise’s analysis. A very welcome podcast, loved the first couple episodes, will be a regular listener.
Super show keep telling the truth!
This cast is all of what I thought it would be and then some! Elise and Steve have done a great job laying the foundation of this pod cast during the first casts. I have always been a Steve Schmidt since seeing him on MSNBC regularly. It was nice to learn where he comes from thru his childhood, his education, political life to present. Keep up the strong work! I look forward to listening to your cast every week!
Thanks-I really enjoy this podcast.
Articulate people who get to the heart of the situation. Thank you for putting the podcast together.
Great insights from lifelong Republicans who are disgusted with the immoral and corrupt trump administration and the Republican Congress that enables it.
Love the in-depth info and straight forward facts.
Elise and Steve are an incredible duo. Must listen.
I’m a liberal, and I *love* this podcast.
Great podcast and great execution. Thank you for being a voice of reason.
I love this podcast. In the Trump era, sane, centrist, common sense conservatives with a conscience are in short supply. Although I am a left leaning person, I am grateful for conservatives like Steve Schmidt and Elise Jordan who have intelligent positions and empathy, and seem to always be coming from a place of "what's best for the country?" Even when I disagree with them, I'm still glad they're out there providing a rational place for conservatives to return home to after all the Trump nonsense has passed, and perhaps helping to find a new way forward for everyone who values good governance. Thanks to both Steve and Elise for this podcast.
If you care about the direction of our country, here are two conservatives telling the truth. Listen and please share.
Finally! Reasonable voices that speak to Americans who don’t want Socialism in our country but could never, in good conscious, support the cruelty, brutality, and totalitarian philosophies and behaviors of the current administration. I can’t tell you how encouraged this Podcast has made me! I’m not alone!
I am a huge fan of Steve Schmidt’s. He is wise, smart, seasoned, with a spine of steel. I appreciate his perspective and his experience.
I agree finally, intelligent co-hosts that are not afraid to speak the truth and to bring current affairs of our country into the daylight of reality that Trump is tearing away our rights. I called the DNC office and left a message for them to call Steve and hire him as a strategist to help the Democrats take back Congress to halt our country being turned into a dictatorship. I also agree the Democrats should be moderated down the middle not leftists.
We needed a show like this! Well done
I listen to a lot of great left leaning podcasts that analyze what’s going wrong on the left. This is a great new podcast doing so from the right. With great historical insight—I learned a lot from the first episode. It takes courage to voice unpopular opinions in our current climate. We need more like the hosts of this show.
Steve Schmidt is a true modern day philosopher, I am so attracted to his honesty and his ability to speak truth to power.
Your podcast is provides valuable insights and POVs. However, having Steve Schmidt read a commercial as part of being interviewed in the most recent episode was a major blunder. The subject is NEVER the commercial reader, even if he's a co-host. Jordan should have read the copy or everm better, used a 3rd party.
Im a life long Democrat but it is very welcome to finally hear intelligent and competent Republicans finally discuss the destruction of their party due to the current resident of the White House. We have very different points of views on policy but at least I can listen to them without wanting to throw something at their heads.
Elise and Steve are candid and thoughtful as they examine the current political environment from their personal and inside perspective. Growing up in Virginia, surrounded by reactionary southern Democrats, I found the old "Valley Republicans" of that era to be a progressive, good government option. Steve and Elise explain as well as anyone how we got from there to here.
Grateful for this point of view.
I couldn't be any farther from them with my political beliefs but they are the only two out there that I hear that tell the truth, are compassionate, intelligent. I love hearing either of them talk in any medium. It's the first words of inclusion I've heard from Republicans since trump even came on the scene. I'm looking to Steve Schmidt tell us what comes next.
This is a welcome breath of fresh are in the rancid climate of the Trump Whitehouse. We need people and information like this to bring the two political extremes back to the sane center. Keep up the great work. I can't wait for the next podcast
Even though I am a flaming liberal, I remember the days when it was OK to disagree and work towards the center for the common good of the country. Elise and Steve are important and necessary voices on the other side of my way of thinking and I certainly appreciate their points of view.
I am surprised and quite disappointed with the first podcast of Words Matter. Steve Schmidt, and to a lesser degree, Elise Jordan, express well thought out and mildly balanced views on television. They and their guest duck and avoid their responsibility for the rising racism and sexism of the current Republican Party. From the Spiro Agnew attacks on the press to the tall tales of Ronald Reagan to the Newt Gingrich House to the attacks on John McCain’s black child to the attacks on John Kerry’s war record to the birtherism against Obama to McConnell’s one term President culminating in Merrill Garland, their party has happily decided to win at all costs. This particular podcast then mocks Democratic solutions as spend spend spend even as more tax breaks for the wealthy are contemplated. I was hoping for some rational conservative thoughts, am horribly disappointed.
I very much appreciate the frank and clear discussion of the country we now live in AND I appreciate so much that a few conservatives have not turned their back on their ideals, however much I might disagree. I am left of center but yearn for a political environment where we talk to one another and not scream at each other. Where we work out compromise, which is, by the way, not a dirty word! I don’t like 45 (I cannot even say his name) but neither do I want a far left agenda. I hope that a stalwart Democrat as well as the same kind of Republican (Kasich?) comes forward for a run in 2020. McConnell, Ryan and 45 are shredding the decency of the country. Along with way too many other rabid right wingers. It is a smattering of hope to listen to this podcast, that there might be some hope for all of us. Not just whoever subscribes to a certain party.
It’s heartening to know that the other side is doing okay in the midst of Trump’s insanity. If we’re to recover from this long moment of crisis those of us who haven’t been brainwashed by Trumpism, on the left and the right, will need to band together to oppose him and his deranged followers.
I can't express the relief of hearing intellectually honest Republicans speak the unvarnished truth about the 45th* POTUS, Fox News, and the the republican obstinacy and obstruction that started with Newt Gingrich in 1995. I've already listened to both episodes out thus far. This show is hosted by two intelligent, collected, rational, moral, not racist people. I look forward to regularly listening to this podcast to better understand the conservative POV. I'm very grateful for their combined unequivocating voices of truth about this disastrous admin and the complicit Republican MOCs. There's still hope for our republic with folks such as these. 🇺🇸💯💙👊🏻
Both episodes so far have been stellar.
If words matter, the words “sort of” must be the most important of all based on the first guest’s vocabulary. Hearing “sort of” repeatedly in every sentence got so distracting that I stopped listening.
Great podcast. The hosts are both very smart cookies.
As a lifelong Democrat (I was 16 working everyday after school at Lowenstein/McCarthy HQ on Long Island) I love MSNBC and love that many of my favorite “regulars” are disgruntled Republicans, especially both of you (and of course Nicolle Wallace & Richard Steele.) The concept of having Elise interview Steve was brilliant. Following that up by having Elise deliver the final monologue was equally creative. It’s great to hear you both speak for more than two minutes as a guest on one of the hourly MSNBC shows. Steve’s rant about the necessity of the two party system was a revelation. Talking about the leadership of Lincoln in the 19th century & FDR in the 20th was fantastic. Now Steve has to interview Elise. The only connection I ever made between both of you & Nicolle was that you all worked for W. PS. If he wasn’t so boring, Bill Bradley would’ve made a great president. Thanks for the pod!
This podcast fills an important gap in our national discourse: sober, pragmatic, centrist conservatism. If you feel Trumpers are too crazy and Dems are too lefty/socialist, this is the pod for you. Schmidt makes the scathing yet reasoned and principled case for us all to ditch the exremist wings and return to the center.
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I really have a great deal of respect for Steve and I’m getting familiar with Elise on MSNBC. They’ve only done 2 podcasts, but the chemistry is good and the topics relevant. I’ll be listening regularly.
This is incredibly helpful for Democrats in understanding what happened to the “other side” and helps me sleep at night knowing there are thoughtful conservatives who are just as stricken as we are. Keep it up!!
Finally, a podcast that provides a rational discussion of our current reality taking our history and our hopes into account. Thank you Elise and Steve
Wonder where sanity has gone? High-caliber commentary and analysis in the age of Trump and “alternate facts.”
I am a liberal democrat and I am thrilled to have this podcast. The discussion so far has given me a different perspective that isn’t total lunacy. Please keep it up, you’ll get the 5th star when you have an honest conversation about climate change.
I don’t identify as a conservative, but I do care for what the other side of American politics believes and thinks. Trumpism and conservatism are not the same thing. It’s nice that there a group of right-wing folks who are creating a legitimate criticism to the state of affairs that socially and politically affect them. I may not agree with everything thing they think, but it would be wrong from anyone on the of the left to not listen to these people. It’s a great podcast. Fox News can’t compare to this
While I have found Steve and Elise defense of our democracy on other venues inspiring they truly failed to inspire me in this podcast. Steve will not take responsibility for unleashing the Alt Right on us for his support for bringing Sarah Palin to the national stage. They both strangely sounded stuck in the 80’s with their disparaging remarks about democratic policy positions. They refused to critique Republican tax cuts for exploding the deficit (3 Republican Presidents in a row have done this). Their guest sounded like she was an entertainment reporter with nothing at stake in our country other than appearances. What a let down. If Steve believes folks need to vote Democratic this November to save our democracy, as he wrote in a recent column, he will need to do much better than this!
I was thrilled to know these two have a podcast! They are always my favorites on MSNBC and now the podcast. Wonderful!
Listening to sane, well-informed, thoughtful discourse from the right is actually something I have missed & missed deeply. Nice work!
After only one episode I’m not quite ready to give it 5 stars but I will say this: As a liberal I’ve been attempting to find intelligent, respectful content that will help to keep me out of my own left-leaning echo chamber. I can tell you, it’s hard to come by. I tried an episode or two of Ben Shapiro after hearing him on an episode of The Waking Up Podcast with Sam Harris. On Sam’s podcast, Ben sounded thoughtful, reasonable, and open. On his own, my perception was he felt compelled to talk loud and fast - as if he has to blow his opinions past everyone as quickly and as loudly as possible so as to prevent anyone from absorbing them. I hate being yelled at - especially by someone as self-righteous as Ben seems in his own podcast. This one was refreshing. Since before the 2016 election I have been paying attention to the conservative voices of Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace, both intelligent, reasonable, thoughtful, and caring people. They care about this country and its people. I think Steve’s concerns about the direction the country is moving are valid and I’m more than interested in hearing thoughtful proposals on how to move through this time and rebuild (assuming we can move through it and don’t get stuck here). I know Nicole already has a show on MSNBC that I typically miss due to its broadcast schedule, so I’m delighted to be able to rely on hearing Steve’s contributions in this format. I know there must be both conservatives and liberals out there who can put their love of country and humanity above their party or their party’s perceived leader. I sincerely hope this podcast will help me discover more of those kind of people with a conservative outlook and maybe even identify some with a more liberal bent with whom to dialogue because I agree wholeheartedly that the words we use in our dialogue really do matter.
I love that you have this podcast. I am always happy when I see you both on MSNBC. The two of you and Nicole Wallace are some of my favorites and I am a Democrat.
I have heard both of the host on cable TV. They have spoken openly and honestly about the state of America politics. Unfortunately this podcast turned out to be all about how bad the Democrats are. I would like more intellectual discussion not just the Democrats are bad. Fox News does that 20 hours a day. We don’t need a podcast for that
Steve Schmidt need to run for president in 2020!
America is at a crossroads. Will we slip into an autocratic decline or end the divisive rhetoric and rescue our democratic way of life. I’ve been frustrated that MSM has been sugar coating what is happening in our country. Thanks for echoing what I’ve been saying for a while.
Just when you thought Steve Schmidt finally got it right, he shows that he still dead wrong. The host of this podcast have failed to accept the fact that the Republican Party has been a breeding ground for racists and bigot since the civil rights movement. Their between this glaring blind spot towards history and the incessant whining about how Pres. Hoover was character assassinated by Roosevelt it’s not hard to see how these entitled elitists are unable to comprehend how their beloved GOP has run America into this seemingly inescapable ditch of hatred and mediocrity. This show blathers on for 40 plus minutes accusing liberals of having no ideas and at one point asks the question what’s the difference between Trumps big lie about building his wall and Democrat’s big lie that the federal government should “give away free stuff.” First of all the dishonesty of their argument is dripping with cynicism but more importantly Trump’s promises are based on hate and deeply rooted in xenophobia. This jingoistic ideology has been a cornerstone of republicanism since the days of Goldwater and the torch has been carried by prominent conservatives ever since from Pat Buchanan to David Duke. I’m really glad to see the man who will be forever known for making Sarah Palin a household name trying to salvage his reputation through numerous appearances on MSNBC, return to his roots and revealing his true colors in all of its monochromatic splendor.
I am a former Republican. I have been very impressed with Mr. Schmidt. I think that he should consider running for President as an independent or even a democrat. He would quickly clear the field.
No one can communicate better than Steve Schmidt when it comes to explaining the damage and destruction that Donald Trump has done to our country and the Republican Party. I couldn’t agree more with Steve’s views and certainly feel the same level of disgust and disappointment he voices. I will also be leaving the Republican Party - can’t stay in it with a good conscience. Thank you for providing a wonderful discussion platform with “Words Matter”!!
Elise Jordan and Steve Schmidt (as well as Nicolle Wallace) are true, genuine patriots who are some of the few former Republicans that, without any hesitation, chose country over party. As a Democrat, I have a lot of respect for their courageous and steadfast stand. I look forward to listening to all of their podcasts to come!
An incredible attempts at rewriting history. Conservatism equals the theft of the wealth of the greatest nation on earth. The only way to fix it is more conservatism?
Words Matter indeed. And in broadcasting, so do vocal tics. I could listen to Steve Schmidt all day long (and I’m an unrepentant lefty), but Elise Jordan’s vocal fry is intolerable. This is the trouble with the era of the podcast. Well-intentioned, reasonable, intelligent and thoughtful people who probably do have a lot to share that’s valuable—but have zero training in radio—just get on the air and start talking, with little thought given to the sound of their voice. Can’t listen. Such a shame because I really dig Schmidt.
A must listen for the never Trumpers of any party.
Steve Schmitt is my hero and , even though I have always been a Democrat, think he should run for President. Elise also does a super job (maybe Vice President). I’m looking forward to the future weekly interviews. The only minus from this interview is that Margaret Hoover is the most rapid speaker I have ever heard. Her ideas and predictions were fascinating, but the words were spoken so fast I had to really concentrate on what she was saying. Keep up the great work guys.
As a 62 year old white guy, I can assure you that racism is alive and well within my peer group. I see it, hear it and sometimes even have to tolerate it within my conservative family. Minorities are constantly being blamed for everything! For you not to acknowledge this as pervasive within conservatism only continues to help mask underlying issues that need discussion. The forgotten white working class you mentioned in MI, how about the those folks in Pa, Oh, southern and western red states that have been voting republican for generations, which party gets the credit for their circumstance? How about right to work States, how has that worked out for the working class in those states? Either we come together to find real solutions, or people will continue moving further from the middle on both sides.
Rational conservatism. It’s about time.
Did Hoover just deny the existence of a white racist voting block that turned out in astonishing numbers for Trump? They are real and I live among them. She is out of touch.
Good to get another perspective
This is a fantastic show. It fills an important need in today's over-heated political discourse.
As one who is clear that one’s words creates our reality—and that the quality of the words (the quality of one’s thinking) creates what’s possible, I saw little in the Firing Line conversation that forwarded possibility of understanding and even better, generating actionable solutions. Indeed, the discussion centered more around trying to scatter blame than surface and dissect the faulty underlying assumptions that BOTH parties make. This appears a fundamental error for a program entitled words matter. There is too much evidence of duality (either/or) thinking that limits the program’s value.
Excellent first show. I am on the other side of the political fence, but I feel that it’s important to listen to and be open to different opinions. An intelligent discussion regarding the other side’s views has been sorely lacking in recent history. In addition, I will be reading more on Hoover. Thank you.
I have to admit it was very interesting listening to you two without your MSNBC filter. I'm sure I will never ever listen to a Buckley reboot. I had my fill of that growing up with my father. One area that distressed me was listening to three rich white people talking about opioid addiction as if it's a public health crisis but not addiction writ large. Prisons for profit are a factor. And drug laws. Layers upon layers and new devils and new levels everywhere one might choose to look. But somehow, white people not leaving depressed areas and then choosing to zone out on drugs is a crisis? I'm Hillbilly Elegy. You know how I got over it? I moved to where the jobs were. Why the interest now? Because it's white men dying? Drug addiction is either a public health issue or it isn't.
Elise and Steve I always look forward to seeing you guys, your honesty is refreshing and no frills. Keep up the good work and telling it like it is
Gave it a shot but they sound really out of touch, or at least does not resonate with me at all. The aim of the show seems to be to softly defend or help pivot the Republican Party away from Trump without taking any responsibility for it. Trump didn’t just happen out of thin air, this has been building on the right for most of my life. You’re not fooling anyone. I think they are gonna be in for a rude awakening in 2020. They are completely dismissive of the progressive movement. Time will tell.
Got to love Steve. A true American patriot!
A Republican voter from 1952 until the 1980’s, I became a Democrat when Republicans seemed to me to have lost their way. With a few exceptions in the ranks, they descended to the current mob of horrendous, blatant grifters and a weak-willed GOP. I am happy to listen to honorable conservatives who stand against the current mobsters and search for a way back to honor and compassion.
Wonderful podcast! Super informative a little history mixed in and projections of where we’re going. I highly recommend it. I’m a liberal and consider myself a sensible person. Elise & Steve are sensible conservatives and I appreciate learning from them. Can’t wait for the next episode.
Just what Moderate America needs.
There’s a God. Steve please run for president. I’m not a Democrat or Republican. I wait for a spokesperson for indigenous people. But your kindness, intelligence, compassion, values in the rule of law, would seem the perfect fit for hope. Finally I have something to look forward to everyday. This is the restoration of REAL news! Be peace you both. A member of the Mexica (pronounced meh-shee-kah) nation.
Steve is the best
I’m a fan of both Elise and Steve. That being said, this episode was a huge disappointment. I’d expect more from them than waxing poetic about Paul Ryan, or questioning the validity of whether the uneducated white Trump voter is racist or suffering from economic anxiety. Those ships have sailed and the facts are self-evident. If you weren’t told the hosts were “Never Trumpers”, you’d be hard pressed to categorize them as such after listening to this conversation with Margaret Hoover. They get two stars for the hype of having two smart, independent thinking personalities team up on a podcast. Unfortunately, it didn’t live up to expectations on the first swing.
Best people in politics
Loved Buckley’s vocabulary and interviewing style, as a grade schooler twisting that plastic UHF dial to watch Firing Line. However, even as a young person I could sense his closeted bisexuality and feel his dislike of gay people...I actually watched his on-air fight with Gore Vidal during ABC’s 1968 convention coverage which nailed conservatism and the GOP’s hatred of my personhood in my own young mind during a time when that hatred could mean my complete social rejection. Hard stuff to forget, specially after the 30 year struggle for acceptance... However, I enjoy you two on MSNBC and find your ideas more accepting so will listen to your podcast. A 3rd party might be the only way until the Trumpublicans die away then there will again be two but that 3rd party must stake out the economic interests of the ordinary American, the owners and creators of businesses smaller than the alleged small businesses (500 employee as opposed to 1 or 2 in many tiny operations struggling to make it in the unfree marketplace of the present day GOP and Trump. Much luck!
Not clear about ms Hoover’s ideas. Her thoughts are jumbled and hard to follow She is strong on the Hoover legacy. As a Democrat I came to hear some smart ideas from a few of my favorite Republicans Elise Jorden and Steve Schmidt. Will follow the podcast in hopes of more discussions from a different view point
Two very conservative hosts that care deeply for bringing the right and left together for the sake of our Republic. Listening to learn how to have political dialogue without the division.
Congratulations on your new podcast.Your efforts to explain and provide historical context for these very disturbing times is greatly appreciated by this life long liberal.Since it was your first broadcast, I look forward to future programs that will include liberals and progressives who can defend their positions which I feel you and your guest unfairly critiqued.The left should be challenged for proposals that cost a great deal of money but to characterize Corey Booker as phony progressive in unfair .So invite Booker and other leftists on the show so I can listen to an honest discussion of the issues that concern me and hopefully a broad cross section of our country. I look forward to future podcasts.Thank you again for Words Matter and I hope you both continue to appear on the Nichole Wallace Show.
I’ve been waiting for Steve Schmidt to have free reign. Adding Elise is lagniappe. This wayyy left liberal adores the message and power these two bring
As an avid Pod Save America listener I was really looking forward to this podcast to be educated about what values and policies conservatives align with. My honest hope, which I still have, is that pods like this can help us to find common ground and work together on critical issues. But, this episode really didn’t help. at. all. I do know a lot about Herbert Hoover, though.
I actually listened to the podcast. They talked about William F. Buckley and Ronald Reagan, everything is still the Democrats' fault, the usual stuff, no new ideas, stuck in the 80s, stuck in DC. I don't know where this podcast is going to go, but if this is all they are going to talk about, they'll run out of material in a couple of weeks. Keep trying.
I’ve really enjoyed the first episode with Margaret Hoover however Elise Jordan really needs to speak a little slower! She’s very passionate and is making such great points about the topics but she talks so fast that her words become slurred and very difficult understand.
I was fairly disappointed in this first episode of the podcast. I've been really impressed by Steve Schmidt's most recent public statements about Trump and the Republican party. I consider myself a centrist democrat or solutionist. Provide solutions to problems and disregard tribes. This initial podcast felt tribal (whereas I was hoping for independant) and in all the talk of fiscal conservatism and upward trajectery of the deficit, I was absolutely appalled that there wasn't a single mention of the tax cut in regards to the deficit. The critic of the democratic party's solutions were superficial and failed to address what I was hoping to hear in which was some sort of middle road solutions. Yes, they don't like Trump but they essentially talked about Bush 1 ideas and layed out Democrats as typical 90s tax and spend. They will have a platform as long as long as Trump is around but unless they can draw in new ideas and ethos this podcast will likely have a limited run.
I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Keep up the great work. I was raised by Republican parents in Louisiana. I went to undergrad and law school in MS and LA respectively. But, now I am a 45 year old liberal progressive living in CO. Hotty Toddy! (Elise will know what that means ;)
Elise and Steve make a great pair! Their combined experience is apparent and lends to the credibility and insight provided. Looking forward to many more great episodes.
I’ve enjoyed Elise and Steve greatly whenever I catch them on MSNBC. They’re smart, well-spoken, and most of all come off as genuine, good people. I’ve voted as a Democrat in every election I’ve been able to, so my politics probably don’t align perfectly with theirs, but I do like that they’re providing a well-spoken, moderate, conservative view about issues where I can find common ground. I think that’s really important in this political climate where neither major party is offering many good ideas for the country.
Both Elise & Steve are a great combination of passion & smarts to tell us that Words turly do Matter! Bravo....can't wait for more!
I love both these hosts. I am a huge fan. Steve Schmidt is so smart, he should run for office.....and I am a Democrat. I have watched them both on Deadline Whitehouse and know what credibility they both have. Looking forward to listening.
steve words are always powerful and poetic!
I was disappointed and will never not give this podcast one more opportunity before I unsubscribe. 😕
I describe myself as a pragmatic liberal. While I tend to follow liberal ideas I always try to investigate the other side in my continuing search for the truth. Steve Schmidt and Elise Jordan have been two of my favorite pundits for years. I may not always agree with them but I know their opinions are always honest, intelligent and provocative. I always take away some useful information that helps me formulate my own opinions. This first podcast looks like they’re on their way to a successful program of good honest dialogue. I think I’m going to love it.
Great on all fronts
These two brilliant voices are so needed.... keep at it, Steve and Elise. Outrage, truth and clarity!! Fighting the good fight. Good luck y’all :)
This is a great new podcast for those who hate trump, but maintain their traditional Republican values / beliefs.
I don’t love the conservatism movement, but Elise and Steve made it interesting to listen about it.
Thank you. I was born a generational blue collar democrat, but my common sense and logic has never allowed me to stand unwavering behind any idea or blindly follow. I believe in democracy, fiscal and social responsibility. Words do matter and your intelligent discussion was most enjoyable and NEEDED in this world of political entertainment. Entertainment at the cheapest, most uncomfortable and useless level, like an 80’s slasher film.
I will keep listening with high hopes this will get better. I’m hoping for more unscripted banter. I hope you can feel more free to speak with maybe just an outline or notes without sounding like reading a book report. I say that as someone who is rooting for this podcast’s success.
I’m historically a strong Democrat, but current events and concern have me listening/considering reasonable Republican positions as reflected/articulated in this new Podcast.
Since I am familiar with Elise Jordan and Steve Schmidt from MSNBC, l look forward to having a weekly podcast from this dynamic duo who have shown they know “Words Matter.”
Looking forward to listening to Two bright and articulate people.
Let’s do this. Waiting for some awesome logic.
Like Ronald Reagan said “I didn’t leave the party the party left me” I identify with Steve so much where did the GOP go. I’m disgusted & embarrassed I was ever a member. I can’t wait for this representation of what the Correlation of the descent is.
Am a former Republican, who preaches Milton Friedman approaches. I am deeply invested in the center of the Democratic Party and need the never Trumpets! I am pushing this to all my pod save america friends. I love crooked media and I know these two will be awesome.
Stoked for this podcast! Schmidt and Jordan sink a stake in the ground for America
This is the podcast I’ve been waiting for. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. Elise is a rockstar.